Have you tried the Horned Owl pass? Eyes wide and rotate the head 180 degrees. Bring the off hand over the axis that would run through center of top of head and windpipe. Stretch, and at the same time go Hoooooooooooooooooooooo Hooooooooooo.
Use a series of short chopping motions with the blade at a 10 degree angle.
YMMV