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05-22-2014, 01:43 PM #1
Really Big Razors - What's the Appeal?
Settling in to nearly a year of straight shaving - at least the past six months of it very good - leaves me wondering about razor size and and the attraction to large vs. intermediate blades.
Months and months of slashing around my face virtually cut- and nick free has given me time to focus on razor geometry. There are not any mysteries left but the personal question of "Why a large razor" compared to anything else? Square points take a while of getting used to but, once trained and focused on the point, they really do a nice job on details and edges. I get square points although, as a mustachioed person, I find little utility in the point I cannot mimic with an extra detailing pass from a round point. Sure, a smiling blade is kind of nice but plumb geometry works fine for me on intermediate sized blades.
Big blades... I don't get it. Having tried a smiling 8/8 W&B for a few rounds I found it heavy and somewhat restrictive or cumbersome in where it will go. Having shaved with a (really lovely) 7/8 Kropp I am left with the same feeling; except for speed on broad cheek strokes not much of the blade sees action around my nose, chin and up/down the throat. Am I missing the point by missing some big-blade technique or is it just a matter of big-blade rarity creates big-blade skills and kicks? True, blade wiping is minimized but, after that - where's the beef? "For barbers" appears to mean, here's a huge blade you can shave with a dozen or more times a day, hone away, and expect it to wildly outlast a smaller, thinner, lighter razor. Not outperform smaller razors, just outlast them if you have the requisite skills to whip them around through the curves.
Your thoughts on blades 13/16 and larger?"We'll talk, if you like. I'll tell you right out, I am a man who likes talking to a man who likes to talk."
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05-22-2014, 01:49 PM #2
I have them from 9/8 through 14/8. They're just more fun to use. I have no problems at all shaving with them.
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05-22-2014, 01:51 PM #3
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Thanked: 154Rather than the "large" aspect, I tend, for myself, to find appeal in the weight.
I alternate on a daily basis between small and light blades and large and heavy blades.
In the first case, I tend to "direct" the blade in the direction where I want to shave, in the other case I merely let the weight do the trick.
Much like working with a lightweight vs heavyweight DE.
Still, the blade wiping part is a plus
My two centsBeautiful is important, but when all is said and done, you will always be faithful to a good shaver while a bad one may detter you from ever trying again. Judge with your skin, not your eyes.
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05-22-2014, 01:54 PM #4
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Thanked: 4828I'm guessing there must be a cool factor. Kind of like when I go to cities and there are people driving around in giant 4X4's. The closest to off road those trucks get is an unpaved parking lot. So there must be some cool factor. I don't see a big change in shave quality for one size to another, you are right about the less wiping. I have to confess though, I have several big blades. I got them to try out and restore. They are nice blades but do not offer anything a smaller blade does not. It's all about what floats your boat, the cool factor. I think most of us are just having fun and not many of us are into this for the practical solo....
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05-22-2014, 01:56 PM #5
Guess it's one of those personal preference things.
After I purchased an 8/8 Revisor from the Classifieds here, it was no looking back. A 5/8 feels like a toy in my hand now.
For me, everything about them works, I love the aesthetic, I really like being able to see the blade clearly and easily, and the feel of the weight of the steel against my face completely works for me. I find they strop much easier for me, and again, with the big blades, you can really see what you're doing and where it's going - ultimately though, like everything, it basically boils down to personal preference. Same with the fact I prefer the spike points, really don't like round points, they're my least favorite! LOL
Having said that, I guess I'm at extremes, while I love the big blades, I'm equally enamored with the French and Swedish frame backs, the Thiers-Issard #69 and the #19 I have are awesome, while the 13/16 W&B frame back I have didn't really do it for me...just personal taste in the end.
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05-22-2014, 01:58 PM #6
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05-22-2014, 02:07 PM #7
They are in the local hardware store right next to axes.
The easy road is rarely rewarding.
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05-22-2014, 02:10 PM #8
For me it is all what you get used to and prefer. 8/8 is my preferred size at this point. Everything from full hollow to near wedge. It's just what my hands are used to moving around on my face.
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05-22-2014, 02:14 PM #9
I'm not sure it can be said with certainty that big blades attract more appeal than mid-size blades,,,if that is what you are trying to say.
I have both , but shave with mid-size full hollows most of the time.
But,,,
If there are 2 razors on the table to choose from, both NOS, one full wedge Wade & Butcher & the other a hollow Filarmonica ,,,I want the W&B,,,can't really explain it..
If I could choose between a Cadillac El Dorado convertible & a mid size BMW,,,give me the Caddy.
Not really the explaination you were looking for, I'm sure,,,but some things are hard to explain, I guess,,
The choice is really not that hard, when looking at them both, side by side,,
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05-22-2014, 02:16 PM #10
I think a lot of us have to try the meat choppers out just to see what the fuss is about. I've shaved with a 10/8, maybe even a 12/8 once or twice, but like RezDog said, it is almost like folks that feel the need of a Hummer to go to the grocery store and back. I still have a few of the large blades, shave with them and enjoy them when I'm in the mood, but I found my sweet spot at 6/8 after a few years of messing with it. A 5/8 or 7/8 - 8/8 is alright too, but below 5/8 I cannot get comfortable with the ergonomics. YMMV.
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