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    Close and Comfortable Jfala's Avatar
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    Conditioner works very well for me too. Doesn't appear to make a difference what type or brand as I have used a couple both with great results. I first wash my face with a mild face wash from DDF or Nancy Boy and then apply the conditioner for the rest of my shower. Can really tell the difference in feel and in the shave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    I picked up a tub of
    Queen Helene
    CHOLESTEROL
    Hair Conditioning
    Cream

    It made such a good lather that when I wiped a clump on the towel it was still there after 4 hours !!
    Interesting... I never thought about mixing it in with the lather. I'll have to give this a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    I picked up a tub of
    Queen Helene
    CHOLESTEROL
    Hair Conditioning
    Cream

    I'm 55 years old.....






    ....I think my doctor would shoot me if I went to the store and came home ANYTHING that had SUPER-CHOLESTEROL in the name!


    in fact, I was so amazed, I thought that G-dub had a typo.... I Googled it, and sure enough.....Queen Helene Super Cholesterol Hair Conditioning Cream

    ...which, to my way of thinking, opens up the possibilites of whole new product lines.....


    Industrial Sludge Night Cream (it glows in the dark!)
    Toxic Waste Intimate Lubricant
    Spent Fuel Rod Natural Male Enhancement (may cause erections with a half-life of over 1500-yrs - see your physician)

    -whatever

    -Lou

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    WTG, Lou - now quick on getting the TMs established - before someone steals these gems!

    Btw, I think Kyle at B&B had an in-depth piece on conditioners - down by ingredients one should be looking for / avoiding. Turns out some conditioners actually strengthen the folicule, making the shave harder.

    CHeers
    Ivo

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    Badger And Blade: How To: Pre-Shave Prep



    ...whew!...THAT took some diggin'...there's a lot of information there! Thanks for the heads-up, Ivo!

    -whatever

    -Lou

    EDIT: Note that there is absolutely no mention of cholesterol, much less industrial sludge, toxic waste or SFR's...so, until someone tells me I can't........
    Last edited by scarface; 06-04-2007 at 03:35 AM.

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    I love this forum! Lou got me laughing so hard I got kicked out of the room and then scarface saved me some search time by finding a link to some sick preshave advice.

    Well done lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle@Badger & Blade
    The Good:
    • Moisturizers – These are used to hold moisture in the hair. Typically, moisturizers are humectants which serve to absorb water from the air and force it into the hair.
    • Oils (EFAs – Essentially Fatty Acids) – these help your hair to become more soft and pliable. EFA’s mimic sebum which is the oil naturally produced by your body and released through your hair follicles.
    • Surfactants – These are wetting agents that lower the surface tension of a liquid, allowing easier spreading, and they act as an emulsifier which facilitates the blending of unblendable substances (such as oil and water).

    The Bad and The Ugly:
    • Reconstructors – These are used to penetrate the hair and strengthen its structure.
    • Acidifiers – They keep the pH around 2.5-3.5 which causes the somewhat scaly cuticle to tighten up.
    • Detanglers, Thermal Protectors, Glossers – These act to again contribute to the acidic environment (tightening the cuticle) and to put a coating layer on the hair.
    As you can see, depending on what exactly your hair conditioner contains, it very well could be making your job (shaving) much more difficult than is necessary.
    and the ingredients of my Pantene Pro-V Classic Care Conditioner are listed as:

    Ingredients
    Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Cetyl Alcohol, Quaternium-18, Stearyl Alcohol, Dimethicone, PEG-2M, Polysorbate 60, Cetearyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Oleyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Fragrance, Panthenyl Ethyl Ether, Citric Acid, EDTA, Panthenol, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone.
    Now, I'm sorry, but I read that ingredient list, and all I see is:

    water, blah-blah-blah, alcohol, blah-blah-blah, orange juice, blah-blah-blah

    .....no way MY little pea-brain is going to correlate Kyle's list with the ingredients list.

    Fortunately, I'm used to being confused.

    -whatever

    -Lou
    Last edited by scarface; 06-04-2007 at 03:46 PM.

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    and the ingredients of my Pantene Pro-V Classic Care Conditioner are listed as:
    Ingredients
    Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Cetyl Alcohol, Quaternium-18, Stearyl Alcohol, Dimethicone, PEG-2M, Polysorbate 60, Cetearyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Oleyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Fragrance, Panthenyl Ethyl Ether, Citric Acid, EDTA, Panthenol, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone.
    That is messed up! Ethyl ether?
    That is like on the freak out and tear your clothes off if it gets on you msds forms at work, and Methylisothiazoline is an ingredient that is mutagenic and is presently being evaluated as cancer causing.

    I think if your going to use a High ph conditioner you should probably follow it up with a acidic apres shave product to balance the skins protective mantle.

    This should be fun working out what conditioners work best on the face.

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    I've tried a number of conditioners on the beard and find that neutrogena triple moisture works best for me. I have a decently coarse beard and it's the only product that lets me shave ATG with relative ease and comfort. Hope this helps.

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    I have found that the only conditioners I have around the house actually strengthens the hair. I have yet to try one that would actually help the shave I am looking forward to it. I am unsure of what brand or type to look into though.

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