thanks Ray. for future reference what should i have done different? was it my fault? i would like to try and not do this again ha! so any suggestions would be great. now would i have noticed that the wire edge came off during the first shave? cuz it was crap from the start but that isn't to say it didn't happen on the first stroke right. i know there are a lot of variables here so keep in mind i am realistic and am just trying to learn from this. thanks again.