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Thread: A Conversation with my barber
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11-07-2010, 06:35 AM #1
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This has been my third haircut with this Old School Barber, and if you look a my posts here you can just about tell when the first was. The first time, he used a str8 on my neck, it was an injectible bladed razor, I can't remember the brand, but I remember feeling so great, that the second time I went, I asked him about straight razors, and he reccomended the Dubl Duck. I told him that I had seen some complete sets sell new for around 300 bucks and he scoffed at the price.
I didn't realize that I was to begin my quest for a brand new double duck razor fresh off the factory line from their up to date website and go ahead and pay my 20 dollars for one and get started right away.
After a little google searching, I came across this forum, B&B and some information that led me to believe that I DIDN'T KNOW CRAP about str8 razors. I didn't expect that Dubl Ducks weren't made for 70 years or something like that and that they would cost a wee bit more than 20 American Dollars (I guess when he scoffed at the prices he didn't adjust for inflation). So I joined this forum, dug my Grandfathers Gillette Slim out of the drawer and sliced up my neck like OJ Simpson would (or wouldn't perhaps, your choice).
So yesterday I go in to get my ears lowered and I had a little bone to pick with him, for he sent me on a wild goose chase (read: Duck) for a razor that is a rare gem and costs a pretty penny. I was eager to speak to one of the few old heads left that still new how to wield the str8s, and still had his old strop hanging on the back of the chair (which he didn't want to sell me by the way cause I asked).
Now this barber is a Korean War vet, has been in the same location since 1961. I don't know if he was in a bad mood or what, but at 4:45 central time on a Friday evening, maybe he was just getting a bit tired or something, but I dont think that he was the least bit interested in my sudden interest in str8 shaving. lolool
So As soon as I sat down in his chair I began to tell him of my findings and that theres a "Group of people on the internet forums who are trying to bring straight razor shaving back"
"Theres going to be a lot of people cut up" he said in a dry, old man sort of manner that just seemed like he was about to dismiss some whippersnappers.
He told me he had a guy come in with a str8 a long time ago that was dull, and he couldn't get a shave with it, so his partner honed it for him, and the first thing the customer proceeded to do was run it down his face just as hard as he did when it was dull. "His face just seeped blood" he told me, and I almost busted out laughing if it weren't for the seriousness of it.
He then told me that he had another customer come in and wanted his face dry shaved with a straight adding "Theres all kinds of people in this world" emphisis on the kinds.
he told me it would take me 9 years to get the razor sharp.
Well, I realize that this was probably a waste of yalls time, but I guess it was one of those you had to be there things. I enjoy the guy, he reminds me of my grandfather. He won't give me any str8 shaves like the old days though, I might ask him again when he isn't busy and maybe offer him a 20 just for the experience of being done proper.
Im going to show him my latest aquisitions when I return.
Eric
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11-07-2010, 08:08 AM #2
he sounds like a grumpy ol coot lol ...thanks for good read I thoroughly enjoyed it great post Eric
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11-07-2010, 02:04 PM #3
On grumpy coots
Thanks for the post. I LOVE some of the nuggets gleaned from conversations w/ old barbers. Look at Jimmyhad's signature line for a good example.
Grumpy coots: There may be some stories there that are helpful - or not. It may take time to get through the crust to the pie. I've only found one barber in my area even willing to give a good str8 shave. Regulations (gulag of Oregon) have made it almost impossible. Those gucci shops that still do it, have to use a new replaceable blade (shavette or feather), and they want $90 for a shave. This has driven most barbers out of that line.
The old guys have memories. That is the ore that can be mined if you have any such inclination.
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11-07-2010, 02:20 PM #4
I love guys like that. They really do know a lot, but also sometimes they will BS you just to see what you're made of. Will you "push back" a little, bark back, and enjoy the repartee. Like 9 years to hone a razor, nope. I suspect that 9 years of good maintenance would make for a great razor, but no, you can get a razor super sharp and smooth in 30 minutes or less. But he likely had some other point he was trying to make there.
Reminds me of a preacher I love to hear--very scholarly, very distinguished and articulate, but also very searching, provocative, and moving. As a young man, I wanted to "be" this guy.
So one day I asked him, "How long did it take to prepare that sermon?" His answer was:
70 years
Maybe that's what the 9 years is about...
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11-07-2010, 03:29 PM #5
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Thanked: 1Actually I think he was just in some kind of a bad mood, but I really like the guy.
Maybe it took him 9 years to develop all of the proper techniques. He said that his wife had some old str8ts in a drawer at home, boy Ill bet he has got a few nice pieces.
Eric
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11-07-2010, 03:46 PM #6
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11-07-2010, 03:47 PM #7
Not long ago I ran into a local barber who has also been at it since the early '60s. He had a bunch of straights but wouldn't sell any. I asked him about hones and honing and he got a disgusted look on his face and said honing was a "PITA". He was glad that he didn't do shaves anymore and that he used a replaceable blade straight for around the ears and the back of the neck. Tough gig being a barber. On your feet all day and depending on how many walk in for your living. I'm not surprised that some of them are grumpy. Thanks for the post BTW.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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11-07-2010, 04:12 PM #8
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I understand the expierence you have had with old barbers. When I first became intrested in Staights I would talk with barbers about them and they would say why in the world would you want to use a straight, after all the new platnium blades give a great shave and you don't have all that maintenance.
However one day I met a barber who spent hours helping me along the path. Last year I met a barber who is in his 80's and still working and he sold me a Dubl Duck No. 1 Special at a bargain.
I recently had a conversation with a guy who lives in the interior of Mexico and I asked about the barbers down there and if they still gave straight razor shaves. He repllied, You can still get a straight razor shave, but most of the barbers who do it are "Old Coots" in their 60s and when they are gone it will probably die out."
As I will soon be 65, I would prefer to be called a "Distinguished Elderly Gentleman", but I guess I qualify as an Old Coot.
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11-07-2010, 06:16 PM #9
These 2 came from my barber, so keep at him
Before:
And when properly restored. when he mentions the "sanded with 120 grit" that was me. Luckily I stopped before I totally ruined them.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...tml#post684811“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Albert Einstein
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11-07-2010, 09:21 PM #10
Interesting -- it takes about nine or ten years to get a black belt in karate.
And in fact at about ten years you do begin to get a hint if the instructor
is any good.
Yes show him your razors and ask him for hints.
He might even use your razor on you. You might need
to bring your own strop (and hone). Watch the shop so
you are not razor happy bothering him when the shop is busy.