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    I was watching Jockeys video(V3.0) today of him shaving and noticed that he had a rather extreme angle when shaving ATG on the neck.

    For some background:
    I've been St8ing for a year now, and I've got a system, but I'm only happy with my shave maybe once a week, or even a month. So I've really been dissecting my shaving more. I know I have good tools now. My stropping could still use work, but at a slow pace I know I am not rolling my edge, and I am keeping the strop flat, and I do 25 strokes on either side. I use just a cream now, and hot shower, then shave, I leave conditioner on my face while in the shower for pretty much the whole time. I shave in two passes. One WTG then one ATG. I keep a Gotee, so I don't have much to shave. I'm blonde with a very sparse and fine hair.


    Ok back to my questions.


    I keep a consistent angle while shaving WTG feels best around 16ish degrees. I do this pass rather quickly as its just seems its to lop my hair off so I get do my ATG. WTG I can get my face smooth if I only stroke down... but up it feels like I never shaved.

    when I do my ATG I do it with the blade on my skin pretty much, I might increase it to 3or 4 degrees at most, which is why Jockeys video bothered me, he seemed to be at 15 degrees. however this gets my face super clean, I end up doing a couple of strokes XTG but this is really all I need.

    However, I have some problems spots under my chin bone I can never get them baby smooth and I dont know why. my neck above my adams apple always seems too be poking a couple hairs out, no matter how many ATG passes I do.


    So, when ATG, what angle should I be keeping?

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    I usually go as flat as possible with the razor almost flat on my face for the odd spot I go ATG. The only places I do that are the soul patch and just under my chin to catch the last couple of whiskers there, and that almost flat angle works well for me.

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    Depends on the razor too, but I agree with Stu I go way flat, but more importantly you need to go very light on pressure...
    I even forget that sometimes and it has been almost 30 years for me using a SR, if you want BBS, you have to get away from pressure, it is counter intuitive, but it works....

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    So should I really be able to achieve BBS without going ATG, because it seems impossible.

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    When I do an ATG pass, the blade is almost flat against my skin. I do use subtle variations, but that's what I aim for.

    As Glen said: use no pressure. If your razor is sharp enough, this will lead to a nice, comfortable, smooth shave.

    As to BBS with no ATG pass: I can't do it without going ATG on at least some parts of my face. Anyway, I don't focus on BBS....instead I try to get a close, comfortable shave. No point in BBS if you wind up with an uncomfortable shave.

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    ok.. i think i just need to go ahead and make a video of me shaving so i can be told why i suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue View Post
    ok.. i think i just need to go ahead and make a video of me shaving so i can be told why i suck
    just don't shave against the Grain.
    gl

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    its the only way i have got a close shave ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue View Post
    its the only way i have got a close shave ever.
    This is what you know yet.
    Time will come up you will realize you can get the same result without ATG.
    1 st get properly honed blade
    2. Use less pressure while you shave.
    3. Stretching skin
    4. scything motion.
    5. good preparation and soap(don't use cheaper ones please) i like tabac a lot.
    Then enjoy your shave and have a lot fun.
    hope this helps.

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    Well I have one of yours i bought last year... so I'm pretty sure it was honed right


    But all reality I have like 4 blades now all mostly freshly honed.,.... I can get a damn good shave at this point a year later... but its always ATG...

    Scything motion scares the poop outa me, i've sliced into myself every time ive tried. and not just a little slice... a big slice.

    I think my stretching could use a better attack.

    I use a hot shower and conditioner as my pre shave

    I use omega shaving soaps... then just some good creams as my finish....


    With all that said I know i need to work on.

    1. Stroping... its inconstant, slow.
    2. Preshave- I need a better system to doing it that is always the same so I can really judge what i change during shaving.
    3. How I hold the blade.... there are time i feel uncomfortable, but I am not sure how better to get a good attack angle
    4. Stretching... am I actually stretching the right way, or is there a better place to do it so the hair is easier to get to.
    5. Angle, I keep it pretty consistent now, but I'm always changing I need to stick to one for an entire shave then change....
    6. Stop changing so many variables every shave so I can tell what is making the difference.


    I know i need to do these things... but as I said this weekend I'm making a video and posting it for comments.

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