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    Wink All "A+" Shaves?

    When I started using a straight razor back in December, it was easy to grade my razors into A, B, and C shavers. However, after getting all my razors honed and in tip top shape and after finishing nearly 150 shaves, I am finding it really difficult to rate my razors. Razors that I originally gave a "C" ranking, like my Henckels 401, now provide me with an "A+" shave. I cannot think of any of my razors that do not provide at least an "A" shave.

    Obviously, having the razors properly honed along with a growing technique on my part makes the "A" shaves possible. Now, just to distinguish and rank my razors, I have gone to A, A+, A++, and A+++ rankings. I feel it more accurately represents the truth of the razors.

    Yes, I do have some current favorites like a 6/8 Thiers-Issard Le Grelot and a 5/8 J. A. Henckels 72 1/2 but it based upon how the razor feels in my hand and on my face. Since all of my razors can provide a truly effective shave, my new goal is to work towards getting each razor to shave with the greatest possible smoothness and comfort.

    It is a nice problem to have. I cannot imagine how I even thought I could fairly rank razors with my beginning technique. What I was really ranking was my miserable and inconsistent technique.


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    I rate my razors as Excellent Shavers and outstanding shavers and exceptional shavers. What's the difference? All three give close comfortable BBS shaves but it's all in the sensation you get from them. I always characterize them as excellent you can feel the razor going down your face and tell it's working but not in a bad way. Outstanding you can feel the razor but can't tell it's working and exceptional you can't even tell a razor is going down your face. I have always believed any quality razor can be made excellent and the jump to outstanding can be done if your willing to do the extra work in honing. However exceptional shavers are just that and it's an innate quality some few razors have and I don't think you can create one from a lessor category. It either has it inside or it doesn't.
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    Truly knowing how to shave and also being able to fine-tune a razor to your preference is a wonderful thing isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    I rate my razors as Excellent Shavers and outstanding shavers and exceptional shavers. What's the difference? All three give close comfortable BBS shaves but it's all in the sensation you get from them. I always characterize them as excellent you can feel the razor going down your face and tell it's working but not in a bad way. Outstanding you can feel the razor but can't tell it's working and exceptional you can't even tell a razor is going down your face. I have always believed any quality razor can be made excellent and the jump to outstanding can be done if your willing to do the extra work in honing. However exceptional shavers are just that and it's an innate quality some few razors have and I don't think you can create one from a lessor category. It either has it inside or it doesn't.
    Thank you for this excellent post. In my limited experience, I am just beginning to discover what you describe. Your putting it into words is very helpful. It gives me both a vocabulary and criteria for judging my razors. I particularly like the description for exceptional razors. Thank you very much!

    TheBigSpendur: Have you found any particular brand, more than others, that falls into the exceptional category?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLB View Post
    Thank you for this excellent post. In my limited experience, I am just beginning to discover what you describe. Your putting it into words is very helpful. It gives me both a vocabulary and criteria for judging my razors. I particularly like the description for exceptional razors. Thank you very much!

    TheBigSpendur: Have you found any particular brand, more than others, that falls into the exceptional category?
    Yeah, that's an excellent gauge to try and implement, isn't it?
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    There are probably a lot of good razors sold by beginners because they think they are not that good, I have when I started. As far as brands go I have razors that are in the list of Good Straight Razor Brands and some unknown brands and there are excellent ones in both categories once you master the shaving and honing technique

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    I have found that while all of my razors will give a sufficient shave, some of them will take a better edge than others. So far only two of them are what I would classify as simply "magical" shavers. One razor, which I suspect is a rebranded Dovo, will not take as sharp of an edge as other razors. But it is also an exceptionally smooth shaver so I still use it and see it's value in my rotation.

    I have been keeping a log of my razors on my dresser, which just lists the razors, the date I honed them (and with what finisher), how I rate the initial shave (A-F), and then tally up how many shaves it gives before needing another honing.

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    Another problem when one starts using a straight is that once a certain level is obtained expectations keep going up. That often leads to reevaluating all the razors that you have, once again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by riooso View Post
    Another problem when one starts using a straight is that once a certain level is obtained expectations keep going up. That often leads to reevaluating all the razors that you have, once again!
    Excellent point. This can work against you as well, as razor "A" may give good shaves but all of a sudden be judged as inferior compared to razor "B". Then you end up messing with a good thing trying to chase that magic edge. This is especially true when using honemeister blades, and can quickly turn into obsession. Sometimes you have to give up on splitting hairs (excellent or spectacular? A+++ or A++++?), kick back and enjoy what's most important: the shave.

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    I'll tell you, I have about 125 razors and most are different brands though I have a good number of Livi and DDs and TIs and I don't think I could characterize one brand as having more of the exceptional shavers with any real accuracy. I have three Williams razors and all three are exceptional. I have several TIs and 2 meet the criteria, 2 of my Puma's do and a three or four DD that do. A couple of my Livis do. The rest are one here and there and sometimes it a razor you would never expect. Probably of all my razors around 15-20% meet the definition for me. I guess to really be able to tell you would need a lot of a brand and the closest I have to that is DD. I have around 25 of them and though collectively they are outstanding shavers the % is the same there. From my experience the brand that impresses me the most for exceptional razors is Willams and that's just based on what I have.
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