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Thread: First Kamisori shave
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06-19-2013, 11:19 AM #1
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Thanked: 39First Kamisori shave
I got myself a used Iwasaki kamisori and had my first shave with it yesterday in the evening.
It's a bit different to handle and took a moment until the respect of the new disappeared.
I went to the strop and started. The first few strokes where "uneasy" and with a bit of fear of loosing grip, but after 20 or thirty strokes it felt like I have used it for five years. Flipping actually works better than with a (western) straight.
Then to the shave. OK, how to hold it (her? ... her!) best? Yes, I've done some reading and watched one or the other video, but holding it Yourself is different.
First few strokes where like "hi, I'm Frank and this is my face". "Pleased to meet You. I am Iwasaki and this is my omote".
Getting familiar with each other, I concentrated on that and the shave itself and completely forgot about the holding her. My fingers found their way like when dancing and within no time this whole thing truely became second nature - I'm now absolutely sure I have been shaving with a kamisori for at least a few years; maybe in another life.
My hand finally found its basic position with three fingers side by side on the ura in the notch (which apparently has been made for that) and the thumb in the hollow of the omote right next to the stamp. This way, no pressure is needed to hold and guide her gently and precisely. It's so damn ergonomic that You wonder how you wondered in the first place.
There is a nice shaving video by Jim R on youtube. At certain points he warns "this part is a bit complicated" or "tricky", but when I shaved I did not feel any discomfort at all.
Unfortunately the shave was too got, so I had nothing to shave this morning, but I can live with that.
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06-19-2013, 12:41 PM #2
They sure are fun to use, couldn't help reading it "Hi, I'm Frank and I've got RAD"
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06-19-2013, 12:49 PM #3
Nice write-up, thank you for sharing. I also had my first Kamisori shave just a couple of months ago and took inspiration from Jim's video. They sure are 'different' but I very much agree with your assessment of how ergonomic they are.
And the introduction bit was best in class, well written ;-)
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06-19-2013, 03:45 PM #4
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Thanked: 13249Kamisori are just so simple in their use and function I think that is much of the appeal for me..
A trick I use when shaving them, I imagine a thin layer of water between the lather and the skin and I try and skim that as I shave using a very light touch, if I get it right then it is a WoW !!!!!! shave
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06-19-2013, 04:09 PM #5
my first kamisori shave was this morning. i poked myself countless times with the toe point and gashed my neck with it though thankfully didnt really bleed as wasnt a slice. i did not feel right holding it at all but i am so excited to try again i am wishing stubble on my face. as soon as i post this i think i will actually try just one with the grain pass haha.
im still a bit confused though. is the traditional style to have the stamps pointing away or towards your face????Net.Wt.7oz
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06-19-2013, 04:43 PM #6
I would say try it both ways and see which feels more natural and gives the best result to you.
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06-19-2013, 05:04 PM #7
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06-19-2013, 05:07 PM #8
The kanji (stamps) usually goes away from the face, I think it's so you can admire the beauty of the kamisori while shaving!
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06-19-2013, 05:07 PM #9
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06-19-2013, 06:54 PM #10
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Thanked: 3Easy when shaving the right side of your face on the first pass down, yes. For the left side of your face it's a different matter in the beginning. I taught myself to shave that side left-handed and the first pass is XTG. So I supposedly do it the 'authentic' way with the omote (non-stamped side) against the skin and the ura pointing out but I'm still wondering it's really required. I wonder if the entire discussion isn't based on the false premise that the original users shaved themselves. I can imagine that kamisori were used by barbers and of course a barber -who can move around the client- doesn't face this problem.
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