Thread: Old Brammel

I scored this old relic off eBay some time ago. It says Brammer on it then under the maker it says just by guessing Persepolis. I'm waiting on a new book at the moment, Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740-2013: Revised and Expanded 2nd Edition but haven't got it yet. All my other books show no information about it at all so if anyone has some knowledge on it, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you very much in advance!

Found this... I dunno!
http://straightrazorpalace.com/show-...h-brammer.html

Here! http://straightrazorpalace.com/show-...dgers-etc.html

Good going sharptonn!!!!

Originally Posted by engine46

Good going sharptonn!!!!

No biggie! I just hit the search box up top right. If Scienceguy has one, he will know about the maker.
Perhaps he shall come along!

Very nice.

Nice score !!

Nice collars. They remind me of the old French collars.

Here's the info you're after. He was a razor manufacturer at Pye Bank. The first two listings are for 1837, 1833, then the directory snipped is from Pigot and Co. in 1828-9. I don't have an answer offhand for when he started, but based on the appearance of your razor I would hazard a guess that it was made late 1820s - 30s.



The Sheffield Indexers - Trade Directories



Pigot and co.'s national commercial directory for 1828-9, comprising a ... - Pigot James and co - Google Books

Zak - correct me if any of this is wrong. But there weren't too many Brammers and this was pretty readily available information.

Originally Posted by ScienceGuy

Zak - correct me if any of this is wrong. But there weren't too many Brammers and this was pretty readily available information.

That's right. He was late enough to the game that he didn't go through the apprentice system.

Before 1800, there is a brief knot of Brammers entering into the cutlery trade. John, George and Jonathon.

Jonathan was even still listed as a razorsmith in 1833 when his son was born.

But Joseph Brammer is the one with the Persepolis mark, and his father was also named Joseph, and his father was John, who may or may not have been related to the other John and George, but the records are tough to sort out that far back. The chances are very good Joseph Brammer was related to, at least, George Brammer (he certainly had a brother of that name, but the apprentice register show's George Brammer's father as being John Brammer, which throws the relationship into question).

This would all be so much easier to sort out if old Sheffield families had more than 4 forenames to choose from.

(I'm exaggerating a little -- there were 8 if you don't count Verdon and Marmaduke).

Short version:

Joseph Brammer, born 1796.
First listed as a razor manufacturer on Pye Bank in 1822.
In 1830 he married Elizabeth Ainley.

Their children were: Joseph Lewis Brammer (1831-1873), John Clifton Brammer (1834-1834), Mary Ann Brammer (1837-????), Margaret Jane Brammer (1840-1892), and Harriet Ellen Brammer (1843-1910).

His last directory listings were in the 1850's.
He died February 21, 1864 at age 71.
His wife died in 1875, age 70.