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    I really love butterfly razors.

    One of my first shavers is a butterfly, and well, while I didn't think I would ever have another one, a particular one appeared on a well known auction site, and I went straight for it.
    Because it was "impossible"

    Broadly, and from what I have read/heard about these particular razors
    - Bulky razors, made by French prisonners in England at the start of the 19th century
    - Made for sailors, which is why they often come with a technique developped by sailors : the scrimshaw
    - Henceforth, not by any means "luxury" razors.

    Most of the times, butterflys are on the heavy side, having two heavy blades.

    And now, here comes the "strange" (actually beautiful) one, on the right (standard butterfly for comparison)



    And now, for the "trick"

    There is something I saw in the auction, that some may have missed. Something I guessed because I already have a similar blade

    Second one from the left, an old French blade circa 1810

    The third razor is a Wawick (15/16 at its largest), circa 1820, which is what I had closer to the other butterfly.

    Here is the trick illustrated

    Old French on the left, Wawick on the right


    Classic butterfly on the left, "impossible" butterfly on the right

    There you go. The back is almost inexistant, allowing for finer blades (keep in mind that at that time razors where sharpened with a wheel, the geometry of the back is not that important).

    And therefore, keeping in mind that an average 5/8 razor is about 50g
    Single blade :
    - Old French : 33g
    - Wawick : 75g

    Butterfly :
    - Standard : 85g
    - "impossible" : 42g

    Hence "impossible" :
    - A butterfly lighter than the average razor
    - A butterfly with a helmet and small thin blades which would make it a high end item

    I love it, and will take the utmost care while bringing it back to life
    Beautiful is important, but when all is said and done, you will always be faithful to a good shaver while a bad one may detter you from ever trying again. Judge with your skin, not your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggelos View Post
    I really love butterfly razors.

    One of my first shavers is a butterfly, and well, while I didn't think I would ever have another one, a particular one appeared on a well known auction site, and I went straight for it.
    Because it was "impossible"

    Broadly, and from what I have read/heard about these particular razors
    - Bulky razors, made by French prisonners in England at the start of the 19th century
    - Made for sailors, which is why they often come with a technique developped by sailors : the scrimshaw
    - Henceforth, not by any means "luxury" razors.

    Most of the times, butterflys are on the heavy side, having two heavy blades.

    And now, here comes the "strange" (actually beautiful) one, on the right (standard butterfly for comparison)



    And now, for the "trick"

    There is something I saw in the auction, that some may have missed. Something I guessed because I already have a similar blade

    Second one from the left, an old French blade circa 1810

    The third razor is a Wawick (15/16 at its largest), circa 1820, which is what I had closer to the other butterfly.

    Here is the trick illustrated

    Old French on the left, Wawick on the right


    Classic butterfly on the left, "impossible" butterfly on the right

    There you go. The back is almost inexistant, allowing for finer blades (keep in mind that at that time razors where sharpened with a wheel, the geometry of the back is not that important).

    And therefore, keeping in mind that an average 5/8 razor is about 50g
    Single blade :
    - Old French : 33g
    - Wawick : 75g

    Butterfly :
    - Standard : 85g
    - "impossible" : 42g

    Hence "impossible" :
    - A butterfly lighter than the average razor
    - A butterfly with a helmet and small thin blades which would make it a high end item

    I love it, and will take the utmost care while bringing it back to life
    I just saw one on eBay a few weeks ago & it went for a little over $100. It had broken scales. I have one I got off ebay & one scale is cracked but I'm not going to do anything with it because of it being a double bladed razor. I was going to make new scales for it but decided to keep it original.
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    That's one of the nicer models I have seen.
    The blades are etched aren't they ?
    I was going to make new scales for it but decided to keep it original
    Well, such a piece would merit it.
    Or at least a pasted piece of bone to complete
    Beautiful is important, but when all is said and done, you will always be faithful to a good shaver while a bad one may detter you from ever trying again. Judge with your skin, not your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggelos View Post
    That's one of the nicer models I have seen.
    The blades are etched aren't they ?

    Well, such a piece would merit it.
    Or at least a pasted piece of bone to complete
    Yes the blades are etched. I may have to take a pic of a blade for the club I started.

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