Did you just drop that!!???

Yesterday after work I stopped in at one of my usual antique malls that I hadn't been into for a while to see if there were any new blades in stock. Right at the front door I see 4 and thought, Yesssss! Get the girl over to open up the case and I go over them all. Even at $20 a piece, nothing worth buying except.......... A Bengall that I notice has perfect Ivory scales. YOINK, donor scales!

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I carry on with my search and the lady puts the razor at the front for me. I get down another Isle and I see 2 very nice Sheffield blades in a glass cabinet. Get the girl again and I have a once over. The first one is a very nice Sheffield, Joseph Rodgers with Diamond edge blade etch, horn scales that also read Diamond edge, and a very nice matching box. But I pass on the blade due to over honing on the toe.

Next blade has very good condition blade, hardley any hone wear, Beautiful ivory scales, and serious rust over the tang. I couldn't even see a makers mark..... but that ivory!!! No cracks just a bit of warping.My initial thought is, "Man those scales would look good on that naked Tally Ho I have sitting at home"..... But I pass on it too.

Next day.... I regret not buying both blades so I got back. Get the kind lady to get both razors out for me again and I tell her, I'll take both. She asks me if I'm going to continue shopping, I say no and I'll pay for them now.... Now at these antique malls, they do not like customers walking around with sharp objects so typically they take them for you. As I walk away, I hear behind me what sounds like a heavy razor hitting the ground. I turn around and see her pick something up from the floor.... Oh geez, I hope that wasn't the ivory one!!! We get to the front and I can't see the razors yet as she carries them behind the desk where she starts to package them up for me. I try to see what she's doing and I can't, so I straight up ask her "did you drop one of the razors?" She turns around and I can immediately tell that she messed up real good by the look on her face. "Yes." she says. "Are they ok?" I say "Ya I think they're fine."
At this point I can see bright white peering at my from a fresh break in the scale. "Can I see that white one please." Well, she brings it over to me and the wedge end is completely broke in half. "it's broke." I say annoyed. " I don't think I want this one any more." She was very apologetic, but I really had no compassion for her at the time. Once I got to my truck I had a few choice words I yelled, but once I started to drive, I slowly started to feel bad for the girl. The Ivory was some of the thinnest I've ever seen, and I know she was fighting with keys, the 2 razors, and both boxes. Maybe I should have offered her a hand instead of charging to the front to pay.

Here's the Joseph Rodgers Diamond edge that I ended up getting. Hone wear on the toe, but I think can be made good again. Unfortunately, I think the etch will be lost in doing so.

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Sad to hear that tale of woe. I really don't like the idea that she tried to palm the busted razor off on you regardless. If you hadn't asked and gone out the door with it, I'd bet you have a hard time getting a return.

Bob

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Originally Posted by BobH

Sad to hear that tale of woe. I really don't like the idea that she tried to palm the busted razor off on you regardless. If you hadn't asked and gone out the door with it, I'd bet you have a hard time getting a return.

Bob

Bob

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She had no intention of telling me it was broken, and you're exactly right about the return. I'm not sure they even do returns at these malls. I wonder what the owner of the booth will say next week when they come to restock. I'm sure they'll see the razor in a slightly different condition, from when they last saw it. If she wasn't going to tell me, I'm sure she wont tell anyone else.

Oman sorry to hear about the lost Ivory, but you know hen I seen the title to the thread , I just knew you were making fun of my blunder with the brush! Tc

One time a saleslady who owned the little antique store opened the blade that I asked to see,, then ran her thumb across the edge drawing blood. "Oh !! it's still sharp!!" , she said as she ran to the counter for her small first-aid kit.

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Oman sorry to hear about the lost Ivory, but you know hen I seen the title to the thread , I just knew you were making fun of my blunder with the brush! Tc

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This is why I started to feel a bit bad for the girl after I cooled down a bit. I know crap happens, I've even dropped razors in the past. But she should have just come clean, straight up and said " I messed up big time." I would have understood.

Andrew, an entertaining read! :)
However, better to save the etch and do a bit here and there. JMO!

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

One time a saleslady who owned the little antique store opened the blade that I asked to see,, then ran her thumb across the edge drawing blood. "Oh !! it's still sharp!!" , she said as she ran to the counter for her small first-aid kit.

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AHHHH! Ouch! My buddy cut himself on an old Gillette DE that still had a blade in it at the antique store. "You idiot, your tetnis up to date?"

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

Andrew, an entertaining read! However, better to save the etch and do a bit here and there. JMO!

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I think it was Karma coming after me.... I was on the clock when I went in, and on the way to a job. I was trying to hurry to get out of there and get back to work.

I thought someone might say that about the etch. Maybe leave the wear at the top and try and blend away the wear at the edge?

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Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY

I think it was Karma coming after me.... I was on the clock when I went in, and on the way to a job. I was trying to hurry to get out of there and get back to work.

I thought someone might say that about the etch. Maybe leave the wear at the top and try and blend away the wear at the edge?

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Yeah. Start with 2 layers, wear the top layer in. Add a layer. Just change the top layer from there.

See what happens?
Once it's gone....It's gone!

Dang scale stamp is upside down.... The stamper guy was drunk that day I guess

Let's see ..... How some were done, esp in one of a pair so the writing could be all right-side-up as the box was opened.

I see, so it's possible this was one, from a set of 2. I think I know exactly what your talking about. The two would lay flat in the box, kinda like the Yin Yang symbol.

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Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY

Yesterday after work I stopped in at one of my usual antique malls that I hadn't been into for a while to see if there were any new blades in stock. Right at the front door I see 4 and thought, Yesssss! Get the girl over to open up the case and I go over them all. Even at $20 a piece, nothing worth buying except.......... A Bengall that I notice has perfect Ivory scales. YOINK, donor scales!

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I carry on with my search and the lady puts the razor at the front for me. I get down another Isle and I see 2 very nice Sheffield blades in a glass cabinet. Get the girl again and I have a once over. The first one is a very nice Sheffield, Joseph Rodgers with Diamond edge blade etch, horn scales that also read Diamond edge, and a very nice matching box. But I pass on the blade due to over honing on the toe.

Next blade has very good condition blade, hardley any hone wear, Beautiful ivory scales, and serious rust over the tang. I couldn't even see a makers mark..... but that ivory!!! No cracks just a bit of warping.My initial thought is, "Man those scales would look good on that naked Tally Ho I have sitting at home"..... But I pass on it too.

Next day.... I regret not buying both blades so I got back. Get the kind lady to get both razors out for me again and I tell her, I'll take both. She asks me if I'm going to continue shopping, I say no and I'll pay for them now.... Now at these antique malls, they do not like customers walking around with sharp objects so typically they take them for you. As I walk away, I hear behind me what sounds like a heavy razor hitting the ground. I turn around and see her pick something up from the floor.... Oh geez, I hope that wasn't the ivory one!!! We get to the front and I can't see the razors yet as she carries them behind the desk where she starts to package them up for me. I try to see what she's doing and I can't, so I straight up ask her "did you drop one of the razors?" She turns around and I can immediately tell that she messed up real good by the look on her face. "Yes." she says. "Are they ok?" I say "Ya I think they're fine."
At this point I can see bright white peering at my from a fresh break in the scale. "Can I see that white one please." Well, she brings it over to me and the wedge end is completely broke in half. "it's broke." I say annoyed. " I don't think I want this one any more." She was very apologetic, but I really had no compassion for her at the time. Once I got to my truck I had a few choice words I yelled, but once I started to drive, I slowly started to feel bad for the girl. The Ivory was some of the thinnest I've ever seen, and I know she was fighting with keys, the 2 razors, and both boxes. Maybe I should have offered her a hand instead of charging to the front to pay.

Here's the Joseph Rodgers Diamond edge that I ended up getting. Hone wear on the toe, but I think can be made good again. Unfortunately, I think the etch will be lost in doing so.

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Was just reading the part when my jaw dropped and you said you, "passed on the Diamond Edge", I was madly about to begin typing a PM to you to pick it up for me when I read you came to your senses (wink, wink) and grabbed it, has a bit of wear, but it looks fantastic, the etch looks pristine on the blade face, thumb notch, and the scales, with that gold, marvelous, awesome find.

The Canadian razor gods shined on you with that one....:D

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Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY

I see, so it's possible this was one, from a set of 2. I think I know exactly what your talking about. The two would lay flat in the box, kinda like the Yin Yang symbol.

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Yes! Bill's Rodgers come to mind!

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To be honest, at first glance the hone wear plays tricks on the eyes, making the toe look thinner than the heel. It's what my eyes told my brain initially, and then I lost interest. I wasn't even sure after I left if the scales were horn or not because there was no wedge. I was off my game that day, maybe in too much of a hurry. But your right, and I even wondered what the hell I was thinking when I walked away the first day. It needs some work, probably put a led wedge in. The wedge now is what you typically see in the early honey horn rescales, when it's built into the ends of the 2 piece scales. The rust on the tang is shallow, and should come away without much work.

TBH, a lot of that heavy, uneven wear is the result of pasted strops back in the day, IMO.
Getting them back through the stones can be trouble, as we all know.
Never know til you try!

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

TBH, a lot of that heavy, uneven wear is the result of pasted strops back in the day, IMO.
Getting them back through the stones can be trouble, as we all know.
Never know til you try!

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I'll get an edge on er Tommy, don't cha worry! I love a challenge, even if it takes me a week to set the bevel.

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I'll get an edge on er Tommy, don't cha worry! I love a challenge, even if it takes me a week to set the bevel.

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No worries! All you need is our mutual friend to get started! Mr DMT! :roflmao

Don't forget to swoop it, young man! :deal:

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No worries! All you need is out mutual friend to get started! Mr DMT! :roflmao

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I used Jonathans Chosera 1k while I was down in Michigan. Holy Schmidt those things are nice! Felt exactly the same a my King, but did the job in a quarter the time. Couldn't believe how quick I go the bevel set.

I know...Seems I would describe it as a bit more coarse than the 1k Naniwa I was used to.
Had some light issues going from the green to my regular progression.
So, a bit on the old Naniwa after the Chosera got me right back in the ballpark.

The green monster is FAST! Has to be a reason for it! ;)