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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawler View Post
    After failing once again to find info on the company's website, I sent an email to the department such requests are directed to in the FAQ's. It's after business hours, so I won't hear from them until tomorrow at the soonest.

    Good tip about the wiring diagram.
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    And the "mess of wires" is just power transmission. There are copper connectors where you hardwire a power cord.

    Tried getting shots following the wires inside...
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    If I can't get it operational on my own (well, with the help of the community here ), and in a non-life threatening way, I'll take it to work with me one week. The maintenance crew at the plant has to deal with small motors similar to this one all the time. They may not be the last stop, but they are my first stop in professional "fixin stuff" advice. My wacky ideas entertain them, so they don't mind giving me a few minutes of their time
    Pretty simple connections, there. Label tells all. Get a 3-wire cord, figure out which direction you want it to turn and hook the internal and external wires up as-stated on the back label.
    Establish your ground to the motor using one of the cover screws. There is a cutout to run the green wire out and to the screw.
    Put the thing in a vise or clamp it to the workbench, else it may go rolling over as you plug it in.
    This type of motor has a centrifical starter circuit under that board inside.

    Plug the joker in!

    Oh! That Dremel is a vibrating engraver. Now you can engrave 'Maestro Crawler' on your razors!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Pretty simple connections, there. Label tells all. Get a 3-wire cord, figure out which direction you want it to turn and hook the internal and external wires up as-stated on the back label.
    Establish your ground to the motor using one of the cover screws. There is a cutout to run the green wire out and to the screw.
    Put the thing in a vise or clamp it to the workbench, else it may go rolling over as you plug it in.
    This type of motor has a centrifical starter circuit under that board inside.

    Plug the joker in!

    Oh! That Dremel is a vibrating engraver. Now you can engrave 'Maestro Crawler' on your razors!

    It looks like the supplied blue & black wires determine direction and the power cord is set up the same regardless of direction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnermint View Post
    It looks like the supplied blue & black wires determine direction and the power cord is set up the same regardless of direction?
    Exactly! It is set up for clockwise revolution as it is in your pics. If you desire CCW, just reverse the black and blue.
    On your cord, put black on #1, white on #2, green grounded to cover screw.
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    For some reason I read post #11 to orient the power wires according to the direction you wanted. Skimming is not the best technique for communication.... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnermint View Post
    For some reason I read post #11 to orient the power wires according to the direction you wanted. Skimming is not the best technique for communication.... lol
    "Pretty simple connections, there. Label tells all. Get a 3-wire cord, figure out which direction you want it to turn and hook the internal and external wires up as-stated on the back label."

    I could have broken that down better.
    "Figure out which direction you want it to turn and hook the internal wires (Black and Blue) up as-stated on the back label.
    Get a 3-wire cord, and hook the external wires (Black, white, and green) up as-stated on the back label." (With green being grounded to the motor frame at the cover screw) That!
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    Well, not much in the way of shaving paraphernalia this week. The closest thing was what's left of an old strop that may have not even been for razors. Due to it's condition, and its unknowns, I didn't want to offer the auction house's minimum bid of $2.50 when I noticed it last week. The wife had similar feelings towards a lamp this week: "pfft. Maybe at $2.50, but meh!" So I got 'em to bundle the two for the minimum bid ! SWMBO will remake the lamp for some sort of "up-cycle" thing, and I've got an almost strop to play with while I'm honing!

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    Maybe I'm tired, but I can't quite make out the name I found underneath the hanging hardware?
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    Thanks for tuning in!

    I figured it out!!! It reads "High Quality". At one point, I thought there was also a faded stamp mark of some sort on the handle, but that could just be the staining/discoloration .
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    Finally got a response to my request for information and/or an owner's manual for the motor...

    Chris,
    This motor was built prior to 1972, and with the "MOD" at the beginning of the model number, this means the motor was built as a MOD and one time build. We are unable to support this motor in any engineering sense. I am sorry for the inconvenience.
    That kinda bites. Anyone know where I'd pick up a power cord for this thing?
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    Pfffft, if it was a mod, would most likely have been a standard motor modified to customer's specs. This shouldn't be to difficult for them to research some information, since they probably have a nearly identical model. They probably didn't because you are just looking for information and not looking to replace it. However, they may have a life cycle to old prints/documents and are just burning old prints. Not really common to my knowledge. All companies I have dealt with are borderline packrats, especially the engineering department. Fun fact, I got to go through documents from a crane company that were over 100 years old. Boring, but fascinating. Another fun fact that I didn't remember until now, my brain is like a terribly organized file cabinet, old motors had a significant portion of insulation from asbestos. This is ***possibly*** not an issue if there is no damage to anything inside, but it does raise my hackles from an overly conservative safety stand point. Not that this was related to the crane company's documents on the stators that they wound themselves and were eventually sued for..... *WINK*

    Which reminds me that the motor company might be legally required to disclose any information or documents on products containing asbestos....
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    Yea, from the response, I get the impression that the person at the receiving end of my e-mail just broke down the model number in order to establish whether or not company policy required them to do any work.

    I agree with what you said about it probably is one of their regular models with a slight customer requested tweak. And you know they've got the manuals squirreled away somewhere! Due to it being "made before 1972", it may not be digitized, but they've got a copy somewhere.

    According to Wikipedia, Asbestos reached peak production in the U.S. in '73. I think I owe them a reply e-mail... That is not a material I want to have to worry about!
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    They *might*, some companies have just pitched all the old stuff and say "aww, that's too bad. Buy a new one and we'll help you all you want."

    And it was in everything. It's a great material, just too bad it kills people... It's for that reason, the moment you mention it, you'll get a heck of a lot more attention.
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