Thread: My new beauties (Herder & Heljestrand), want info

I got these two razor by mail today. They were away to get honed after I sanded and polished them. I picked them up on an ebay like site for about 6 or 7 euro's each. They are back now and the Herder shaves awesome!

C.V. Heljestrand No. 23 K&B Extra
1/4 Hollow, 5/8, 1 shoulder stabiliser, French point, white celluloid scales.

Friedrich Herder Abrahams Sohn No. 20
Full hollow, 6/8, shoulderless, muted square point, black bakelite scales.

Pictures:
The Razors:


The grinds:


Stamp on the Herder:


Stamp on the Heljestrand:
(Front)

(Back)


Hopefully some of you know what the K&B Extra means and when the razors were made. Enjoy the razor porn.

Sweet Helje ! Should be a top notch shaver, Both are very nice razors !
here is a link on site, hope it helps
http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi...2No_23%22_9/16
http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi...d_%2223%22_5/8

IME you can't beat a Heljestrand. I've only got one Herder and it is first rate. Ya done good.

Mooie score!

Two of the best shavers, in my experience. They also both hold an edge very well-good tempering on the steel, I guess.

Originally Posted by blugill

Sweet Helje ! Should be a top notch shaver, Both are very nice razors !
here is a link on site, hope it helps
Heljestrand, C. V. "No 23" 9/16 - Straight Razor Place Wiki
Heljestrand "23" 5/8 - Straight Razor Place Wiki

Hi blugill, looking at the tail and the width of the shoulder the helje resembles the MK-23. The strange part is the location of the "No 23"(on the tail) and the K&B Extra logo on the back of the tang. But mine has jimps on the bottom of the tang and the size of the No 23, wierd weird.

It appears that K&B was a pharmacy in the US between 1905 and 1997(K&B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so a razor with a shop logo isn't a stretch. However, how did a Swedish razor for the US market end up in The Netherlands........

Very nice! Congrats and enjoy!

Originally Posted by BrickBag

It appears that K&B was a pharmacy in the US between 1905 and 1997(K&B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so a razor with a shop logo isn't a stretch. However, how did a Swedish razor for the US market end up in The Netherlands........

Brick, I think the wikipedia.org reference may be the wrong K&B for this razor.

Goins' Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings gives K & B as a trademark of Kruse & Bahlmann, who had the K&B Hardware Co., of Cincinnati, Ohio (1894-1962).

HTH,

Originally Posted by mbaglio100

Brick, I think the wikipedia.org reference may be the wrong K&B for this razor.

Goins' Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings gives K & B as a trademark of Kruse & Bahlmann, who had the K&B Hardware Co., of Cincinnati, Ohio (1894-1962).

HTH,

ALSO: The OP's tang shows K&B Extra... Goins cites a KB Extra ("K B" without ampersand) as "K B Extra, a Trademark used by Krusius Brothers, New York 1889-1927. However, Goins doesn't show a logo for this, so I don't know whether the "Extra" on the OP's tang confirms the Krusius lineage, or the absence of the "&" negates it...

But in either case, I'm still tending away from the New Orleans drug store.

Originally Posted by BrickBag

Hi blugill, looking at the tail and the width of the shoulder the helje resembles the MK-23. The strange part is the location of the "No 23"(on the tail) and the K&B Extra logo on the back of the tang. But mine has jimps on the bottom of the tang and the size of the No 23, wierd weird.

It appears that K&B was a pharmacy in the US between 1905 and 1997(K&B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so a razor with a shop logo isn't a stretch. However, how did a Swedish razor for the US market end up in The Netherlands........

Man I wouldn't have a clue how, you got a fine Helje and now its got me interested in finding out more about that particular one, I myself have never seen one quite like yours ! Get her ready and put her on display in SOTD !