Thread: Site move

I suppose it's long overdue.
Thanks to Gugi and esp to Bruno in this case for doing what needed to be done.
The old format has been like an old, familiar pillow for many moons. Change happens so let's all help one another to get our groove on.

As long as things don't "evaporate" I'd say let's do it.

No, things won't evaporate, most everything should be here, but may be with different names, like what we know as 'private messages' they like to call 'conversations'. Since we already have a whole forum section called 'The Conversation', I'm thinking of overriding the terminology and stick with 'Private Messages', or maybe compromise with 'Private Conversations'. Or if someone comes up with something I like better, he can have 'Godfather of _______' under his username (in pink color if it's really, really good).

Though, even staying with the current software has the same problem between major releases - I still remember a decade ago for some people the change from 'usercp' to 'settings' was super hard. But then again, we've seen fights over a single letter - is it a strop or is it a strap. In fact, I have my suspicions that the US Civil War may have been about how to pronounce the 'o's and the 'a's.

We have always have at least two, sometimes more backups done in different formats on different systems, at different locations, so the data is generally fairly safe. It's just how painful is a recovery from that data, if we ever have to do it - staying with the legacy infrastructure means it'd be painful and may be take a week of downtime. On a current infrastructure it should be few hours to a day.

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Get it done!

Originally Posted by gugi

...like what we know as 'private messages' they like to call 'conversations'. Since we already have a whole forum section called 'The Conversation', I'm thinking of overriding the terminology and stick with 'Private Messages', or maybe compromise with 'Private Conversations'. Or if someone comes up with something I like better, ...

Well since you mentioned The Godfather maybe you should call them "sitdowns"

More or less.
A long long time ago when I was still an admin here I offered to help move this place to a different platform because what it runs on now is the software version of a carton of buttermilk left in the sun for a long, long time.
And then there was the thing and I was out. Anyway Ivan approached me recently to ask if I still wanted to help.

My own forum runs on Xenforo which is what Ivan is moving to so , I figured it would make a big enough difference that I should.
I mean Xenforo is not rocket science but when migrating the old mess it helps if you know why things were the way they were or why certain decisions were made. I configured most of the structure and permissions setup which, due to all the software legacy, has the elegance of a watermelon shot at a wall from an air cannon.

And yes, things will get a new feel and look familiar but different. This is not the late 2000s anymore and SRP doesn't have a host of graphic designers and web wizards like it used to, or my participation wouldn't have made much difference. In case this isn't obvious, modern social media has decimated forum participation on all forums, across all hobbies.

So we'll focus on preserving historical data, getting the software to work properly on a day to day basis without hickups, and that's it.
If we do have people with software experience or graphics experience, I'm sure Ivan would love another helping hand. I certainly won't be touching anything in that regard because I'm the type of admins / developer for whom a grey form with a square button is still the end of my capabilities.

Incidentally I'll still be over at my own place.

Originally Posted by Bruno

More or less.
A long long time ago when I was still an admin here I offered to help move this place to a different platform because what it runs on now is the software version of a carton of buttermilk left in the sun for a long, long time.
And then there was the thing and I was out. Anyway Ivan approached me recently to ask if I still wanted to help.

My own forum runs on Xenforo which is what Ivan is moving to so , I figured it would make a big enough difference that I should.
I mean Xenforo is not rocket science but when migrating the old mess it helps if you know why things were the way they were or why certain decisions were made. I configured most of the structure and permissions setup which, due to all the software legacy, has the elegance of a watermelon shot at a wall from an air cannon.

And yes, things will get a new feel and look familiar but different. This is not the late 2000s anymore and SRP doesn't have a host of graphic designers and web wizards like it used to, or my participation wouldn't have made much difference. In case this isn't obvious, modern social media has decimated forum participation on all forums, across all hobbies.

So we'll focus on preserving historical data, getting the software to work properly on a day to day basis without hickups, and that's it.
If we do have people with software experience or graphics experience, I'm sure Ivan would love another helping hand. I certainly won't be touching anything in that regard because I'm the type of admins / developer for whom a grey form with a square button is still the end of my capabilities.

Incidentally I'll still be over at my own place.

Thank you Bruno,
Are you allowed to post a link to your own forum?

i hope threads and pictures related to razors, shaving, and history can be saved.
Lord knows there is a huge pile of B.S. that can be omitted. Lots of irrelevant threads, pictures, non contributing, long absent members, spam, etc. (Guilty!)

Going through it all seems a herculean task. I suppose some sort of basic criteria or it's gone.

Originally Posted by stoneandstrop

Thank you Bruno,
Are you allowed to post a link to your own forum?

Seeing as I am an Admin now, I declare that I am allowed. ....
I don't really compete with SRP. At least not in any real sense.

My forum is www.wetshaversworkshop.com
It started as a general 'Razor workshop" forum back in the day when we prepared for the eventuality of this place disappearing. The idea was to have a workshop related forum for honing, brushmaking, restoration, etc. Things didn't pan out that way and I am now the sole owner.

It's mostly me and a half dozen of regulars, talking about razor making itself (the forging and metal aspect) as wel as generic day to day banter and showing off what the various people made or did that week.
I like the atmosphere and the laid back bantering so I keep it alive as long as there is at least 1 member
I do razor and knife making but everyone has their own side interest and we talk about it all. 'Eclectic' is the word

As I said we don't compete with SRP so by all means come check it out and if you like what you see, stick around and be part of it. It would be great to have a couple of more people posting.
The only reason it's still called wetshaversworkshop is that changing it is more hassle than it's worth and coming up with an alternative name that is still free is hard.

Originally Posted by Bruno

More or less.
A long long time ago when I was still an admin here I offered to help move this place to a different platform because what it runs on now is the software version of a carton of buttermilk left in the sun for a long, long time.
And then there was the thing and I was out. Anyway Ivan approached me recently to ask if I still wanted to help.

My own forum runs on Xenforo which is what Ivan is moving to so , I figured it would make a big enough difference that I should.
I mean Xenforo is not rocket science but when migrating the old mess it helps if you know why things were the way they were or why certain decisions were made. I configured most of the structure and permissions setup which, due to all the software legacy, has the elegance of a watermelon shot at a wall from an air cannon.

And yes, things will get a new feel and look familiar but different. This is not the late 2000s anymore and SRP doesn't have a host of graphic designers and web wizards like it used to, or my participation wouldn't have made much difference. In case this isn't obvious, modern social media has decimated forum participation on all forums, across all hobbies.

So we'll focus on preserving historical data, getting the software to work properly on a day to day basis without hickups, and that's it.
If we do have people with software experience or graphics experience, I'm sure Ivan would love another helping hand. I certainly won't be touching anything in that regard because I'm the type of admins / developer for whom a grey form with a square button is still the end of my capabilities.

Incidentally I'll still be over at my own place.

Thanks for helping with this. It is much appreciated.