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01-06-2009, 01:16 AM #1
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Thanked: 1212Another honing article: peer review asked
Gentlemen,
I have add an article to the Wiki: Bevel-setting in theory and practice - Straight Razor Place Wiki
I have confidence that the information I have add is reasonably sound, but I'm not that confident that I always managed to express myself in a clear manner. I find this stuff more difficult to explain than to do.
Anyway, I hereby start a thread to receive peer review about the article. (I am aware that the Wiki has its own tools for that, but it seems that almost no one uses them)
I look forward to all your suggestions,
thanks,
Bart.
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01-06-2009, 11:47 AM #2
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Thanked: 4942Hi Bart,
Very nice!! One recommendation might be to incorporate the 45 degree angle with the X stroke for both Wedges and Smiling blades in addition to the Rolling X. I have found that instead of the normal X stroke done usually at 90 degrees that the 45 degree angle is excellent for making sure the entire edge crosses the stone.
Your diagrams are excellent.
Thanks,
Lynn
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01-06-2009, 01:34 PM #3
Hey Bart great guide! I love the diagrams, especially the top down views.
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01-06-2009, 04:12 PM #4
My only criticism, if that is what it is, is that a reader might get the impression that using one layer of tape is a negative practice. IMO it doesn't add up to enough of a change in geometry to affect the integrity of the blade. Having a heck of a lot of razors and not wanting to go to the trouble of remembering which were honed with tape and which without I use it on all of them.
I know at least one honemiester who hones other peoples razors that always uses one layer of tape. He feels that the customer will be unhappy with any wear on the spine no matter how slight. Anyway, I feel that using tape is a good thing and I know that it is controverisal but that is my story and I am sticking to it.
Great job on the article Bart.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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01-06-2009, 04:15 PM #5
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Thanked: 13245Bart:
I read it twice and a huge
I could only think of two things, to add/change
1.) Same as Lynn just pointed out the use of a heel forward stoke...
2.) The actual use of the 600 grit to start with, I would have written that as a "lower grit stone / Below 1k" or some sort of wording...
Jimmy hit the other one perfectly, +1 there
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01-06-2009, 10:36 PM #6
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Thanked: 1212Thank you all for the kind words. I believe I received some "high praise"
I will add your suggestion, Lynn.
About the tape issue: I certainly did not intend to come accross as if I reject the use of tape. I think tape has the advantage of shielding the spine from hone wear. For the functionality of the razor and the final outcome of a honing, I don't think it makes a difference. I will try to pinpoint where I came accross as being biassed against tape, and rephrase it in some way, or add clarification.
Kind regards,
Bart.
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01-07-2009, 03:12 AM #7
Nice work Bart.
Thank You & all the other Wiki contributors. Really is a great resource.The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.
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01-07-2009, 03:27 AM #8
Welll done! I didn't really read it all but focused on the graphics instead. I have a pretty good idea how to hone already!
One graphic, the "Checking a dull bevel" is curious. If the cross reference is always a "+" sign I'd argue that the graphic is useless for its intended purpose, and text would do the concept justice. Correct me if I'm wrong, or if you see a point to it.
If you added something, so that atleast one factor would be a "-" then it might make more sense to me.
The rest of it looks really clear and concise though.
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01-07-2009, 03:33 AM #9
It seemed pretty clear to me, awesome article Bart.
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01-07-2009, 07:02 AM #10
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Thanked: 1903Outstanding article. Many thanks, Bart!
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