New Article - Hone Comparison Table

[hoglahoo]

Robin has created a new article to help the would-be honer compare the different commonly used hones

Hones - comparison table

Please add your expertise to this table and upgrade the existing information!

[Bart]

My comment is here: Talk:Hones - comparison table - Straight Razor Place Wiki

I only hope to have made a constructive comment. Filling that table is not going to be an easy task.

Best regards,
Bart.

[BeBerlin]

Many thanks for your input, Bart. You are making a valid point. However, what is the alternative? At the moment, there is no single source of information with regards to hones. Obviously, comparing a natural to a man made one is difficult, not least because there is no uniform grit size for naturals. However, certain hones share certain characteristics or can be used for similar tasks. I therefore suggest that we adapt your categorisation, and take things from there.

And yes, maybe the "similar hones" column is more misleading than useful. But for, say, a Coticule and an Escher, it seems to make sense.

[KristofferBodvin]

What if we seperated the synthetic and natural hones?
Wouldn't that be easier?
And then mabe drop the grit estimation on the naturals, as it would be an estimate.And different hones would vary a lot.

I would really like if some of the experts on natural hones could write an in depht article on their preferd hone.(Like Bart on the Belgians) And really go into the different methods and uses.
Just a suggestion.And BTW. I think everyone that is contributing to the wiki does a hell of a job.Thank you all!

Kristoffer.

[BeBerlin]

We have a volunteer! Thank you very much! Just drop in the chat and we'll tell you how to do it. It's really dead simple. Even I can do it...

[KristofferBodvin]

Ehhm.It was really just a suggestion,but I'll take the challenge.Just give me some time and help, I'm really very bad with computers.I'm also a bit worried of my level of honing experience...

Kristoffer

[crazycliff200843]

I don't have many hones, and I doubt my experience would do anybody much good, so I don't have much input for you. Are you going to include data about what kind of steel works best with the different hones?

[Bart]

BTW: People are reading this thread.
I think the whole concept is very interesting, but I can't really imagine how it would look like in the end.I guess there are a lot of people like me: Just getting the hang of honing, but so far away in experience from you guys that they/I much rather read what you post, than actually contribute with the little knowledge gained.

I don't have many hones, and I doubt my experience would do anybody much good, so I don't have much input for you. Are you going to include data about what kind of steel works best with the different hones?

I'm afraid I have to disagree with both of you. The more people contribute, the more statistically correct the results will become. Clearly, if you have honed more than a couple of razors, you ought to have some idea how your hones relate to each other. No one can share hard figures, not even guys with vast experience, because there exists no real unity (ike e.g. inches or pounds) that we all know and use on a daily bases. Everybody's entries will be relative instead of absolute.
But when we have enough entries, we can statistically convolute the data of identical hones, rated by different people, and find out the median rating for each hone and calculate the deviation. It's more difficult to explain, when you don't know the correct English terms, than to do actually.

The main principle was brought up before, here on SRP. If you have a sack of beans and ask one person how much it weights, you know nothing about his answer. But when you ask 20 people, dismiss the extremes and calculate the median from the remaining results, the accuracy of the result can be amazing.

It takes 15 minutes tops, to think about your hones and fill the Excel file with your best educated guesses. Maybe for the guys of the HAD department a bit longer.

Next week I can try putting a form together in PDF format, that has easy pull down menus to enter the estimates. But it won't have the graphical feedback from the excel file.

The main question remains: does it makes sense to put this show together? If so, let us first think this thing trough with those that are willing to cooperate behind the scenes, and next actively start annoying certain SRP-members with pm-ing them questionaires.

Bart.