Every now and then I see under a persons name on the site banned user. If they are banned how is it they still post?
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Every now and then I see under a persons name on the site banned user. If they are banned how is it they still post?
They are posts that were done prior to the user being banned. Once banned the user does not have any access to the site to continue to post.
Banned members are not able to post. What you are seeing are posts that were made pre-ban. The posters status or membership classification gets changed globally every time a change is made (ie: junior to senior member or active to banned member as two examples). This change appears even on old posts.
just so i know what would one do to be banned?
Rules of Conduct:
SRP rules of conduct - Straight Razor Place Wiki
The rules agreed upon for new registration:
Straight Razor Place Forums - Forum Rules
As nun2sharp points out, bad behavior will usually do it. We also have a list of rules and guidelines that need to be followed. See commiecat's post above.
Although it may seem like it's pretty easy to get banned, it really isn't. Spammers....no question and no delay. Other than that, it takes either a severe and deliberate action or a series of smaller offenses. We try to give a lot of guidance if there is a problem followed by a warning(s). If there is still a problem, we give a short term ban as a cooling off period. Banning is not something we take lightly. In fact, there is usually quite a bit of discussion leading to some consensus among the Mods before we do it.
Yes, being ungentlemanly will, indeed, get you banned. This community is one of the finest, most well behaved, friendliest communities out there. Here, the users behave as if they were facing each other, disregarding the annonimity that the internet provides us. Here we fing first names, faces and people that are willing to help. Have you noticed that: 1) people here don't swear? and 2) that people here tend to write in complete sentences, avoiding all those mind boggling abreviaions and whatnot? That is why I like and I am proud to be a member of SRP: the best online community in the world. :) If a member is unwilling to follow the unwriten rules - but that, unless one is a half-witt, can be deprehended by reading some posts... - he does not belong here, despite having a milion razors and a million brushes and strops. :)
There, I've said it! :)
It's possible that someone edited their custom user title to say "banned member" or whatever it says under people who are banned.
Ha, you tried it. ;):D
The mods are smarter than you think.
Before I became a mod I would see that someone was banned or hear about it. If it was a well known member there was always talk. What I didn't know until I became a mod is that, with the exception of spammers, no one is banned without the moderators discussing it. We all agree to abide by rules of conduct when we join here and for the vast majority following those rules isn't an issue and they never have a run in with the mods.
For those that don't abide by the rules, unless the behavior is exceptionally egregious, no one is banned without repeated warnings. There will be a reprimand or two with no further action taken unless the member keeps up the offending actions. After a couple of warnings if the behavior persists there may be a time out of a week or a month. If upon returning the member continues to stir the pot they in effect cause themselves to get banned. At least that is the way I have seen it since I became a moderator.
So thats the threshold. I was wondering about that..! :D
+1 on what Jimmy said. I didnt realise how much talking Mods do until I became a Mod myself. None of us act alone, and any banning action we take is always thoroughly discussed before hand. And bans are always the absolute last resort.
The only exception to that is spam, and they get flamed straight away..! :mace:
I was recently verbally attacked by a gang of what might as well have been rabid dogs on an airgun forum. I had JUST joined up and was jumped on because they thought I was some guy that had been giving thier forum trouble. Ordinary forum member took it on themselves to be judge and jury, moderators were nowhere to be seen and I was treated terribly. Of course I left, I have no room in my life for that sort of nonsense. Thje moderators finally showed up and tried to tell me this was just "a few bad apples" and please come back etc... I just couldn`t get my head around the fact that some of those forum members felt perfectly at home turning up in that thread, leaving a really nasty post and then leaving. The calibre of man it takes to do something like that certainly doesn`t deserve my company. My point is... THAT is a great example of the chaos that could insue without rules, and more importantly without treating each other as if we were stood face to face. I have already noticed that this forum is chock full of proper gentlemen and that`s why I love this place already :)
Unfortunatly that`s a rarety on the internet. Imagine if E.T. turned up and judged us on what he found on the internet?! You`ve just got to hope E.T. needs to shave and uses an intergalactic straight razor.... ;D
Feebo, it appears it's the same across the board. This forum I noticed everyone is trying to help you succeed.
I think if E.T. found the site you're talking about, he'd simply say, "ET text home" and he'd be outta here.
In feebo's case, I blame the moderators. Form the story it seems the mods knew the 'bad apples' but refuse (for some reason) to throw them out of the basket. If you do that, then indeed they get the chance to spoil the crop.
Sadly, I don't know the rules on this forum. I am not that concerned about not knowing the rules because as long as I am curteous I feel the rules will protect me rather than ban me.
The Mods do a pretty good job as far as I can tell. Even when a debate gets a bit heated the discussions stay on the ideas rather than devolve into name calling.
I think it was Vinnie Barbarino from Welcome back Kotter that had these wise words: "Yous don't haves to be a jerk your whole life." It is Sweat hog wisdom. If you just follow this simple advice you should be OK in most communities.
Thanks for the information. I get a little concerned sometimes, when someone starts taking exception to something I write. Not necessarily on this forum, but occasionally when I challange the conventional wisdom, the sky starts to fall. I'm glad to know the moderators give warnings.
Actually, we're not all that concerned about protecting the conventional wisdom. You will find that, generally speaking, the SRP community values expanding the knowledge base with solid information. Experimentation is popular here. The best examples of this are probably the honing and restoration areas. If you looked at where we were, even a couple of years ago, and compared it to where we are now you would easily see the growth and development in the conventional wisdom.
What we do care about is that any and all discussions take place in a reasonable and mutually respectful manner. We are very protective of the overall environment here and will do what's necessary to maintain it. That's what our members expect and part of what makes SRP what it is.
+1. We've seen conventional wisdom change over the years. Not so much in the fundamentals, but in honing methods and the use of natural stones, double bevels, etc... most things have advantages and disadvantages.
It is ok to question conventional wisdom by making a case with arguments and supportive data. What is not ok is calling people names or accusing them if they don't agree with you.
My opinion is this. I try to stay out of discussions that I know I have a propensity to get irrational in. Some people like to spar, and some people even like to spar with their friends. I would rather just have friends and ignore the obvious differences of opinion.
I think the surest way to loose control of one's self is to get involved in a conversation that tries to change somebody else's mind on Religion and Politics. I am willing to bet that it is here that most people that get banned have crossed a line.
You would think that, but actually it is rather rare, that it happens, the Mods here are pretty fast to shut those down as soon as they start to degrade, we will pull personal attacks, and give people a chance to cool off a bit, and get back on topic instead of after each other persoanally...
This statement from Jimmy is really closest to the truth...
"If upon returning the member continues to stir the pot they in effect cause themselves to get banned."
I have been a Mod here for quite awhile and have never seen anyone banned without a chance to correct themselves...
Geez we even check on questionable spammers, if there is even a glimmer of possibility that they might be a real member, and not just a flyby spammer they even get a second chance...
Both. Generally, people here try to behave. I know that we are the exception rather than the rule, as far as internet forums go. I like to believe that this is because a) the staff behaves as well, and b) we make it clear that we simply don't want or tolerate rude behavior here.
And Glen is right that Religious and political discussion is generally very civil and well behaved. Consequently, it is very rarely that people get banned because of something they did in the conversation forum. Most problems seem to stem from honing / hones discussions.
It's really not the honing geeks that are the problem. The issues generally come from people who are obviously incompetent yet insist to present themselves as experts for various reasons, every one of them being detrimental to the goals of the forum.
At the end of the day we would like to remain the place where people get objective information and real help, instead of being a pulpit for self-proclaimed self-serving 'experts'.
I seem to be proof that a selfrightheous exspert noob dont get banned
Looks like you have to be a vendor before you have to be carefull what you say