Thread: Am I Reading The Classified Rules Correctly?

No harm no foul. Welcome to SRP, enjoy the learning curve and meet the posting requirements. Doing these things is the only way for us to get to know you and you to get to know us. Enjoy.

The flip side to this is, some guy finds a box of razors in the attic, joins the forum and sells the non shave ready razors to newbies who now have a bad experience with their first razor and now have to spend more money getting it honed. The forum software can't tell a good forum user/seller like yourself from the example I just laid out. With the post count and or join date, the attic razor guy will go to Ebay where someone (at least I do) assumes the razors need honing.

Originally Posted by Prahston

1) Newbie here does not mean New at life... I bring a fair amount of skills from other Hobbies and employment. I am, in fact, currently using razors I have bevel set and honed without much difficulty. I definitely have been a Buyer picking up more than half a dozen razors here (serious case of RAD) and that actually helped improve my own skills.

2) My opinion is that the only way to develop a Good Reputation is to do Deals. I could post for hours every day on every corner of this site and still be the kind of flake that describes items poorly, ships such that it promotes damage, or goes on vacation after receiving your money and not updating you thus leaving you hanging for a couple weeks wondering what is going on.

In fact, I would have been more than fine with an answer like, "Rules are rules, yes your quote initially is correct. Deal with it." I just wasn't prepared for the energy behind this topic and so was trying to do damage control with subsequent Replys.

I'm just stoked about this and wanting to learn, do, ec 'more'... No harm no foul, I think. ??

Originally Posted by Prahston

Evidently I've found a subject that is a bit sensitive or has some energy behind it. And, my Title may have been perceived as flippant rather than an attempt at self-deprecating humor. So, let me try it this way...

I was simply asking for clarification of a rule.. NOT justification as I completely agree with the statement above. Why would I ask for clarification? Well, mostly because putting in that kind of post count in that time then having someone say, "Oh, that Rule... Nah, we don't really do it that way anymore...", would 'really' be a drag! Secondarily, my previous experience on Bladeforums.com years ago and more recently HondaChopper.com did not have the same restrictions... In fact, there were many Members who just posted Buy/Sell/Trade and rarely in the Forums at all. Further, I've been around intenet Forums for quite some time and one of the easiest ways to identify a Troll is High Post Count, ie, "Just ignore them. They are just a Troll. Their Post Count is over a Post/Day...", so this is just a paradigm shift I hadn't expected.

I understand all of the above but a couple things to consider:

1) Newbie here does not mean New at life... I bring a fair amount of skills from other Hobbies and employment. I am, in fact, currently using razors I have bevel set and honed without much difficulty. I definitely have been a Buyer picking up more than half a dozen razors here (serious case of RAD) and that actually helped improve my own skills.

2) My opinion is that the only way to develop a Good Reputation is to do Deals. I could post for hours every day on every corner of this site and still be the kind of flake that describes items poorly, ships such that it promotes damage, or goes on vacation after receiving your money and not updating you thus leaving you hanging for a couple weeks wondering what is going on.

In fact, I would have been more than fine with an answer like, "Rules are rules, yes your quote initially is correct. Deal with it." I just wasn't prepared for the energy behind this topic and so was trying to do damage control with subsequent Replys.

I'm just stoked about this and wanting to learn, do, ec 'more'... No harm no foul, I think. ??

No harm, no foul.

And I would say (if anyone cares for my opinion) that post count and time in existence is almost NO indication of ethics at all. OTOH, there pretty much is no method I have seen that indicates that a first time seller is not going to screw you.

You bring up BladeForums (where I am quite active, and I pay for maker/dealer/service provider privileges). I have exactly 0.0 sales over there...yet, I have been a member for several years and have the (basically) highest level of paid membership available, and well over 5000 posts...and none of this should indicate much about my ethics...however, during that time/posts a lot of people have gotten to know me, and those guys would not hesitate to do business with me...

Simply put, there is no decent way to verify a seller. Having other members vet for you is equally problematic.

In the end, it is really simple...follow the rules of the address you are at, and hope for the best

edit to add...I hope my previous post did not come off jerk-ish. I get long winded and basically meant to say, "it is what it is, so deal wit it"

As I understand it, the time limit isn't so much about verifying the quality of sellers as it is about preventing drive-by sellers.

The minimums don't necessarily have to be hit in the timeframe that's there - some members might take a year to post enough to earn classifieds priveleges. You don't have to post once per day - you just need to wait a little longer before you can use the classifieds, that's all.

As to other internet fora and what you see there - I think once you've been here awhile you'll realize that SRP is different than most other forums.
You don't see the high post count "ignore that guy" kind of trolls here. Everyone is very respectful of the other users. It is a gentleman's forum.

Seems pretty standard on quite a few forums I'm part of. Post a bit & hang around for a while before you can take advantage of some of the perks.

Originally Posted by HNSB

As to other internet fora and what you see there - I think once you've been here awhile you'll realize that SRP is different than most other forums.

I have been around long enough to see that much

This place is really quite amazing compared to the many other forums I have attended. There is only one other that I have seen where the majority of people actually conducted themselves as people and not fictitious internet persona's.

I am definitely coming to see the differences here... Stating that a place is for 'Gentlemen' sort of leaves a lot up for interpretation... What I'm seeing/experiencing here is more of a 'Jealous Guardianship Of An Initial Positive Experience"... Very, VERY cool compared to the typical 'Learn As Ya Go' type experiences that may be more common; or at least so to me.

Awesome! I get it and I'm back in line and understanding!

@ Unit... I was fairly active at Bladeforums late 90's for a few years under "EmanymTon" (.. I kinda like thw backwards name thing..) and got distracted by Guns (.. then Bicycles then Building Golf Clubs then Motorcycles/Choppers now Razors.. ..) as they were earlier into implementation of their tiered membership. Great place and I learned a ton!

That is kind of my thing... I pick up Hobbies, learn Skill Sets that I end up keeping as I move on but often sell off much or all of my stuff as I move to the next in order to fund that next interest. This is the first time I've augmented/created a Hobby out of something that was already a part of my existing routine so I can see this as a much longer lasting thing.

Very interesting... I learned a heckuva lot more than I intended with this Topic, that is for sure!

Edited to add... ONE thing I am definitely change is saving access for laptop rather than my phone... Y'all are a bit tough to keep up with on this tiny screen!

Thanks everyone... I really appreciate the info and learned a LlOoNnGg time ago not to worry so much about the delivery.

Further, I've been around intenet Forums for quite some time and one of the easiest ways to identify a Troll is High Post Count

You'll find trolls don't get the chance to have a high post count here.

Yeah, I like to keep it minimalist.

Originally Posted by Proinsias

Yeah, I like to keep it minimalist.

Glad to hear that. The 8 posts in this thread won't 'count' towards the OP's classifieds permissions eligibility.