After reading the posts on this subject, I face lathered some CO Bigelow. I put it directly on my damp brush, and worked it right into my face. I did 3 passes, and only added a little water on the 2nd and 3rd passes. I feel as though I got a very smooth shave, as good or possibly better than when I make uberlather. It's a little hard for me to determine, because I just shaved last night. Usually I go 2 or 3 days in between shaves. I will have to try again when I have a few days growth built up.