Yesterday was my 4th Shave with MDC and definitely the best so far. When using soap I have always went straight from the soap to my face. MDC makes a lot of lather quickly and so it gets a little messy so yesterday I decided to try my Captains Choice Lather Bowl. I’m not trying to conserve the stuff or see how long I can make it last I just stir the crap out of it with just the tips of my Thater Brush. So, that’s what I did. I loaded the brush, stirred in the bowl, loaded some more, stirred some more, sprinkled in some more water, stirred some more and in about 45 second I had enough lather to shave an elephants ass. Sooo, I think I have the soap to water ration figured out usin my Thater 4125/4 30 mm brush. That brush by the way just keeps gettin softer and softer. Feels like mink on your face. I shave with a HH sharp Puma Gold and it was fantastic.