Thanks for the info.
I forgot to add that an old school barber now retired had said he will sometimes use a cream with a little more lubrication to it with some blades like wedges.
Never had a fully expanded explanation though and was reminded of that conversation with Bobs description of this one.
Some guys have noted that some blades simply have a tendency to pull or stick to the face..
Anyway thanks for the suggestions on soap, I received a couple pm and have a couple that I'll be trying out and comparing to my CF.
Sorry to hijack thread Bob.