Sharptonn, thanks for the continual advice and guidance.

Bob, yeah it’s the puck, hard soaps I have in the DHR range. In fact I’ve used all the creams that I had, now I’m thinking I should go out and buy more to stock up.

So I tried blooming and this gave me much better results, still not quite the lather I was after but blooming the puck whist I carry out my pre shave prep significantly improves the use ability. Still a few more things to try out in pursuit of the perfect lather. I’ll give blooming a go for an extended time period a go next.