Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
+1. I was under the impression that they reformulated with the non tallow a few years ago. I haven't messed with it since so I don't know what the story is now. Same with Trumpers IIRC.
I recall reading on this forum (??) a long time ago that Harris was reformulated but tallow remained in there as a major ingredient (hence first or second on the list). Someone even suggested the tallow was not of an "animal sourced product" but I'm not sure how true that is. The Arlington that I owned a year ago seemed to perform very well, just like any other top-quality soap.

Quote Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY View Post
I told my wife i was picking some stocking stuffers for her to give to me at christmas and she said sure.
So i ordered a bunch of soap/cream I wanted to try. I ordered Tabac refill soap, 12 scent TOBS sampler, and a travel tube of D.R. Harris windsor. Out of all of them, I cant wait to try the windsor!! Now I know its not the soap like the thread says but I had to try it and the travel tube seemed like a good start. The only bad thing, I have to wait until Christmas to try it.
The cream can't be far off from the soap at least in terms of scent... so that's a good place to start IMHO. Not that I've tried the cream though...

Quote Originally Posted by Optometrist View Post
Trumper and Penhaligon's reformulated from tallow to vegetable soaps some years ago. The Pen's soaps have always been diabolical since then, Trumper did a pretty fine job of it until 2 years ago, when I believe the manufacturer was changed. Harris soaps, with the exception of the Naturals(which is veggie appalling too), still contain tallow as the 2nd ingredient, and it is these 5 soaps that perform excellently as Arlington, Marlborough, Windsor, Lavender and Almond. MWF is the only other tallow UK soap I know of, all others deciding to go down the veggie route.
The Trumper's soaps was the first that I tried when I first started this 'hobby' back in 2005. I still have the original bowl. The soap quality back then was superb. I hadn't noticed the ingredients as I had thrown the box away shortly after purchase. I remember comparing my face after using the canned goo and a female relative describing my face as a "pepperoni supreme" pizza... After using the Trumper's soap for just a few months, the same people were saying how clear and "handsome" my face looked!!

There has been a definite decline in the quality of the Trumper's soap, although it seems to lather up about the same as before. I use the Rose in the summer but it's not a regular one in my rotation. I've gone off it quite a bit recently. Obviously I've used and tried other soaps since 2005 (too many to list!) so my comparison is probably slightly biased.