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    My Roo strop is also a fast strop. And as said a much thinner strop as well

    A strop being new should still align the steel edge, possibly not quite as well as a well broken in one. But still do the job it's meant to do. It sounds to me as if your stropping technique needs some refinement. Is the strop being held with some tension? If not then it is not going to do what it's meant to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    In my rather limited experience, roo strops tend to be much thinner than other strops.
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    My Roo strop is also a fast strop. And as said a much thinner strop as well

    A strop being new should still align the steel edge, possibly not quite as well as a well broken in one. But still do the job it's meant to do. It sounds to me as if your stropping technique needs some refinement. Is the strop being held with some tension? If not then it is not going to do what it's meant to
    Both the Roo and Spanish HH are backed with a second piece so both are identical in thickness, I have always held my strops taught and warm the leather with my palm before every stropping, as I said I may have the Spanish HH and Roo mixed up as they are both identical in thickness and the only difference is the color, I guess I should have worded it better by saying that the Roo strop has alot more draw than the Spanish HH as in it's a heavier draw, the makers description how ever is the opposite as he advises that the Spanish HH has a lighter draw between the two.

    For sake of an explaination he avised that the lighter colored strop is Roo and the more tan colored one is the Spanish HH so i am assuming the strop to the far left is Roo then Spanish HH right next to it and if thats true the Roo has a lot more draw than the Spanish HH, at least to me it does.

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    That makes sense, as my Kanayama has less draw than my Roo strop. But not a whole lot.

    And if your stropping is on, this is beyond what I can help you with, sorry
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    Roo having more draw than horsehide is unusual,, every Roo I have ever used was slick, maybe not quite as slick as a Kanayama, but darn Close, just didn't feel as smooth. Most horsehide are a medium light draw. Now Latino is some heavy draw. Tc
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcrideshd View Post
    Roo having more draw than horsehide is unusual,, every Roo I have ever used was slick, maybe not quite as slick as a Kanayama, but darn Close, just didn't feel as smooth. Most horsehide are a medium light draw. Now Latino is some heavy draw. Tc
    My Roo is not quite slick, very soft and fast. But as you said, not slick as a Kanayama.
    But still a very good strop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseld View Post
    My Roo strop is also a fast strop. And as said a much thinner strop as well

    A strop being new should still align the steel edge, possibly not quite as well as a well broken in one. But still do the job it's meant to do. It sounds to me as if your stropping technique needs some refinement. Is the strop being held with some tension? If not then it is not going to do what it's meant to
    I do hold it straight and taught! It is super fast though feels like there is no draw or work being done. I do not add additional pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dshaves View Post
    I do hold it straight and taught! It is super fast though feels like there is no draw or work being done. I do not add additional pressure.

    Do you have a loope to see the edge? I'm betting more is being done than you think. Having draw is really just your sense of "feel" to be honest. I could say a strop has no draw and someone else could say it has some. But if your stropping technique is good, it's doing what it should. Not sure on your experience level, sorry if I didn't see you post it, but the more experience you have stropping, the better the edge gets. And the new strop will break in after a short while. Usually a month or so used daily
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseld View Post
    Do you have a loope to see the edge? I'm betting more is being done than you think. Having draw is really just your sense of "feel" to be honest. I could say a strop has no draw and someone else could say it has some. But if your stropping technique is good, it's doing what it should. Not sure on your experience level, sorry if I didn't see you post it, but the more experience you have stropping, the better the edge gets. And the new strop will break in after a short while. Usually a month or so used daily
    I do have a 30X loop, I look at the edge before stropping which is clean and straight then after stropping 100 passes the edge has very fine flaps of what looks like foil but the apex is straight and keen. I have taken the edge back to the stones too clean the edge up then proceed to the strop again and bam same fin like but straight edge results...crazy I only have this issue with my Hart steel razors which I have 9... all 7/8 or 13/16".

    Maybe the geometry of the angles edge is too shallow and doesn't hold up to a heavy draw?
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    Well I'm not really too sure what to tell you at this point. I've given all the help I can.
    It is odd that it's only on that brand of razor though.
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    Maybe send one out to one of the hone pros after you strop and have them inspect the edge. I can't see stropping leaving a foil edge, unless what your talking about is rolling the edge over when stropping. In that case your not stropping correctly, or the edge has issues. Maybe try doing a micro bevel to strengthen the edge. Tc
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