I picked one up at the Minnesota gathering from Randy and did not use it today as I packed it for a traveler. it isn't too stiff and packs up nicely. I'm excited to use it on Tuesday. I think it is great to support other members and the sponsors and you know they would not sell anything that they would not use. I am curious if i should put any type of a dressing or oil on it. I think they are great starter or extra strops.