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    If you lift the blade for each stroke, that is a risk factor inherent to the technique. Not saying it's impossible to do just that it's safer to flip the razor on its spine. That way the razor only leaves the strop when you finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuFFaH View Post
    You will do damage to the edge on the leather, if you make the same mistake you have on linen. If you miss stroke on the linen, you are just as likely doing it on the leather also. No reason to stop using either.

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    I was going to say the exact same thing that Puff did here. It's those imperceptible forward jerks at the end of a stroke which leads me to.........

    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    If you lift the blade for each stroke, that is a risk factor inherent to the technique. Not saying it's impossible to do just that it's safer to flip the razor on its spine. That way the razor only leaves the strop when you finish.
    .......having the same question; do you lift the spine of the razor off the strop at ANY point during your stropping sessions? Keeping the spine in contact with the strop at ALL times during the stropping procedure has reduced nicking my strops down to a few times per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L View Post
    I was going to say the exact same thing that Puff did here. It's those imperceptible forward jerks at the end of a stroke which leads me to.........



    .......having the same question; do you lift the spine of the razor off the strop at ANY point during your stropping sessions? Keeping the spine in contact with the strop at ALL times during the stropping procedure has reduced nicking my strops down to a few times per year.

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    I did this a bunch of times while learning to strop. I never lifted the spine. What happens is that you reach the end of a stroke and there's a little "back lash". It's tough to start to lift the edge before stopping completely in order to reverse direction. So you stop, then there's a slight reverse direction like when you stop a car and it rocks back slightly, then you lift the edge to roll it on the spine -- too late, there's a slight nick or catch.

    What I finally found to completely eliminate this was to shorten the stroke. Initially I seemed to want to use almost the full length of the stropping surface. I think the slight reverse was a result of approaching the end of the strop and making a concious effort to stop. I now sort of stop on the middle 2/3's of the stropping area. It actually turns out that I go further than that but there is a very gradual stop to reverse direction and no more recoil.

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    Know what you mean. Ppl try to use the whole strop and then in order to avoid hitting all the hardware etc at the end they end up with 'hesitation cuts'. Flipping the spine sooner & using a shorter stroke makes all the difference.
    So it's like there's no real stop just a change in direction.
    A slightly loose strop also prevents upward recoil of the leather but that's not a popular technique here.
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    I'd recommend just slowing down a little....haste makes waste.

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    Linen is great for my edges and really helps them stay keen longer. SLOW down and pay attention to your technique and the speed will come later as you develop the muscle memory.

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    I'd recommend just slowing down a little....haste makes waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    I did this a bunch of times while learning to strop. I never lifted the spine. What happens is that you reach the end of a stroke and there's a little "back lash". It's tough to start to lift the edge before stopping completely in order to reverse direction. So you stop, then there's a slight reverse direction like when you stop a car and it rocks back slightly, then you lift the edge to roll it on the spine -- too late, there's a slight nick or catch.
    Yes. This is what I'm doing. I have to go much slower & be much more careful. For me, though, although the linen is indeed a more aggressive burnisher than leather, it doesn't amount to much because my beard inflicts so much destruction that I have to touch it up pretty frequently anyway. So I may ditch the linen just for the sake of eliminating one more piece of paraphernalia. Or I may not. I haven't decided.

    Edit: for the record, I do not lift the spine when I strop. I realize my initial post gives the impression that I do lift the spine. I worded it badly. Instead of "failing to lift the razor completely off the linen," I should have said "failing to roll the edge completely off the linen." My mistake.
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