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natepaint My stropping technique. 08-16-2009, 03:34 AM
VeeDubb65 Rule #1 - Do what works for... 08-16-2009, 03:42 AM
natepaint Since you were the only one... 08-17-2009, 02:13 PM
JimmyHAD Take a look at the 1961... 08-17-2009, 03:19 PM
Kelby Why do you believe it is... 08-18-2009, 04:41 AM
BKratchmer There needs to be a certain... 08-18-2009, 05:29 AM
TexasBob Believe it or not, I used to... 08-18-2009, 01:51 PM
Kelby Wow, I couldn't disagree with... 08-19-2009, 06:04 AM
natepaint I see what you are saying. ... 08-19-2009, 12:37 PM
Scipio Speed achieves nothing,... 08-20-2009, 12:58 AM
BKratchmer This is true, to a point. ... 08-20-2009, 01:33 AM
Scipio exactly why does speed give... 08-20-2009, 01:45 AM
BKratchmer See my post earlier in this... 08-20-2009, 02:27 AM
natepaint I'm currently around 45-50... 08-20-2009, 03:11 AM
BKratchmer 60 isn't necessarily a hard,... 08-20-2009, 03:16 AM
khaos This is complete BS I'm... 09-11-2009, 03:51 PM
khaos There is NO physical support... 09-11-2009, 03:46 PM
natepaint So, I wasn't completely wrong... 08-19-2009, 01:06 AM
rayman The link that Jimmy gave you... 08-19-2009, 01:56 AM
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    Master of insanity Scipio's Avatar
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    Speed achieves nothing, especially if youre new to stropping. It may look cool in videos, but stropping can either make or break an edge. I strop slowly and get great results.

    A certain amount of pressure yes, but no more force than the weight of the blade is required. too much force and the edge will become dull.

    have you tried a paddle strop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio View Post
    Speed achieves nothing, especially if youre new to stropping. It may look cool in videos, but stropping can either make or break an edge. I strop slowly and get great results.

    A certain amount of pressure yes, but no more force than the weight of the blade is required. too much force and the edge will become dull.

    have you tried a paddle strop?
    This is true, to a point. The ridiculous speed some barbers/videos show is ridiculous, and you are better off starting VERY slow until you get the hang of it... but shooting for an ultimate speed of about 1lap/sec will get you superior results.

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    Master of insanity Scipio's Avatar
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    exactly why does speed give [I]superior[I] results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio View Post
    exactly why does speed give [I]superior[I] results?
    See my post earlier in this thread...it's all about achieving a critical amount of force to bend the steel, and you need the force in a lateral plane. The slower you go, the more of the force has to come from a vertical plane.

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    I'm currently around 45-50 laps per minute. I'm not to far off of a lap per sec. I thought based on the videos I was seening, I needed to be around 90 laps a minute, thank you for clarifying that to me. I think I will pay a little more attention to ensuring my blade is properly meeting the strop and gradualy build up to a 1:1 ratio.
    @ scipio I don't have wooden strop I didn't like what I saw of people using them on vids, although I wouldn't say I would never give them a try.
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    60 isn't necessarily a hard, scientific number.... just a ballpark. YMMV, find what works for you. I definitely still strop more in the 40-50 range....tops....

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    Id recommend a paddle strop, theyre much easier to learn on as tension is not required. i have both types and use the paddle as my main strop, the hanging type is only for pastes. Each to their own, but i personally prefer the paddle

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKratchmer View Post
    See my post earlier in this thread...it's all about achieving a critical amount of force to bend the steel, and you need the force in a lateral plane. The slower you go, the more of the force has to come from a vertical plane.
    This is complete BS I'm sorry. Take Physics 101 then come back and talk about it. Friction between solids depends ONLY on Normal (ie. vertical) force. Lateral force has nothing to do with it. Also, force is the derivative of momentum (ie. rate of change) so "establishing" a critical momentum doesn't even make sense. Momentum doesn't generate force. In fact, Newton's first law is "an object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion (has momentum) stays in motion, until acted upon by a force".

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