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    Is there a difference between a pasted strop and a pasted bolsa wood bench hone? I saw one of the Wiki posts, and it gave a step-by-step process to build your own bolsa wood hone. I believe I can make one of these, but if I did and pasted it, would it be as good as a pasted strop?

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    I just made a couple. I went to the hobby store and bought 1/8x3x36" Aircraft Balsa. Then I went to a local plastics company and got 5 pieces of plexi 1/2" thick 3x8 and used contact cement to glue one to the other.

    I've used it on a couple of razors that were already shaving and it definitely improved the edges substantially. I've used 1.0 followed by 0.5 paste that I got from Tony Miller with one of his excellent 4 sided paddles. I have to get some 2.5 and see how I like an edge with that finishing it up. Some say it leaves it too sharp or harsh or whatever. I liked the edges off of the balsa progression so far.

    I think it was ChrisL that I first saw post about the balsa and I made a mental note to get one or more built but put it on the back burner. Now that I've done it I'm really glad that I did. How long an edge will last before it needs to be re-honed is the question now. That remains to be seen for me.

    As far as comparing it to a pasted strop .... I don't know if I would give up my pasted (diamond spray on felt) strop or say one was better than the other. Too soon for me to tell but the treated balsa sure is a valuable addition to the razor sharpening arsenal.
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    Well, thank you, sir. I am going to give it a try. I may not be handy, but I believe I can do this one.

    Are you using Chromium Oxide paste of Diamond paste?

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    I am using diamond paste on the balsa. I have a flatbed hone with a piece of felt and chrom ox also a Livi loom strop with one side chrome ox. The chrome ox is quite good but I think the diamond is a bit more aggressive. That is an impression and not necessarily a fact.
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    I bought some balsa wood strips that were 3 inches by 3 foot several weeks ago. (Cut in half to get #2 3 inch by 1.5 foot pieces.) I didn't know whether they would become part of my "arsenal", so didn't glue them or anything else other than just use them as is. So far, so good. I like the balsa action with pastes. However, with some use I can see that the balsa wood itself will degrade. At first glance, I am inclined to skip the affixing to a paddle or plexiglass and continue to use the strip of balsa alone. If the balsa degrades, which I think it will, I will probably just replace the wood every month or two. (About $3 for the 3 inch by 3 foot section.)

    For those who have used balsa for longer than a few weeks, doesn't the balsa need replacing every few months? And, if you paste it to something, doesn't this make replacing it harder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryAndro View Post
    For those who have used balsa for longer than a few weeks, doesn't the balsa need replacing every few months? And, if you paste it to something, doesn't this make replacing it harder?
    Larry, a friend of mine who hones a lot of razors and finishes on balsa with diamond paste told me that over time it will load up. He hits it with sand paper and glues another piece on top of the existing one. I can either glue to the flip side of my plexi or do as my friend does. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it and I think it is a long ways off for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    He hits it with sand paper and glues another piece on top of the existing one.

    The other option is simply to use a thicker piece of balsa. I've made quite a few with 1/4" or 3/8" balsa, which really isn't much more expensive, and there's enough material to it that you can fairly easily sand it down and repaste without replacing the balsa.

    Depending on the prices for balsa at your local hobby shop, it's probably cheaper, since you can sand past the surface several times over.

    Also, Lowes carries small pieces of kiln dried, furniture grade oak that while expensive, are probably much cheaper than 1/2" plexi unless you've got stock laying around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubb65 View Post
    The other option is simply to use a thicker piece of balsa. I've made quite a few with 1/4" or 3/8" balsa, which really isn't much more expensive, and there's enough material to it that you can fairly easily sand it down and repaste without replacing the balsa.

    Depending on the prices for balsa at your local hobby shop, it's probably cheaper, since you can sand past the surface several times over.

    Also, Lowes carries small pieces of kiln dried, furniture grade oak that while expensive, are probably much cheaper than 1/2" plexi unless you've got stock laying around.
    My friend tried that. He found that it was better in his opinion to just replace the balsa with a new piece. Performance issues he told me. I think the issue was getting past the residue and remaining relatively flat. The stuff is so cheap and easy to make a hone that for me it isn't worth the labor to try and clean a used one up. YMMV.

    The plastics place where I got the plexi is a fairly large shop but not a factory sized operation so they don't mind catering to individuals and cut my pieces out of scrap. Charged me a buck apiece. I like plexi because I have less worry about warping than with wood.
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    It seems that SR shavers are a pretty independent group; we tend to do things for ourselves.

    I purchased my bolsa wood on the way home yesterday. I though about just using the bolsa wood by itself, and then I remembered my non-dextrous left hand. I am going to adhere it to something for the simple reason I want a base on which to hold.

    Thank you for all your posts and examples. I feel better about trying the bolsa wood route.

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    Sarend...

    It works to put the balsa sheet on the edge of a counter and duct tape the ends to hold it in place. I did that a few times, and then just held with my left hand.

    Eventually, I suspect I will adhere the balsa wood more permanently. Now, just learning.

    I found the reference to use of pine wood instead of balsa wood. (Did I read that above, or just somewhere this morning.) I guess about any softer wood will work?

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