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    Yes i wanna use that paste to finishing edge.

    If You asking me about my sharpening. I use a Norton waterstone 4k/8k unforently i dom't have a lover grit stone - perfect will be a Norton 220k/1000k. But ther wen i live - Poland - gry that kimś Of stone its bery difficult, almoust impossible

    when i finish sharpening on 8k i finish blade on 12k - but fr some te i disaide to not use that stone becuse same 8k i thinl oś better.

    Affter all i clean Razor by paper towel, use my hommeade strop, linen side 15 łapę or less and lether side something about 30 laps.

    Results affter all if my Beatę its 4days long i shave wery quickly comfortable - almoust smooth. Only little hair on my right side of Chin.
    I have problems when i start shaving 1-2days beard becuse after third shave Of week i have a little iritations on my neck.
    Then i must wait 4-5 days and migjt start again

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    your sharpening routine looks right. So you´re coming from poland? I bought my Chinese 12k from there, the seller also has some nice diamond pastes at a reasonable price.
    You could consider buying some of them (around 1/2µm) and applying them to felt wich is glued to wood.

    Remember; the usual finishing grit for razor sharpening compounds is
    somewhat around 0.5µm (or micron)
    So any "600" grit polishing compound would make me wonder

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    Here's a thread that gives sources of CrO in Europe, Cube:

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/strop...de-europe.html

    If the highest stone you have is a 8k Norton I would consider getting some 1 micron diamond as well. You would go from the Norton to the pasted strop with the 1 micron diamond, then to the Chromium oxide pasted strop.

    By the way, Ardennes Coticle is in Belgium, you could get a coticle finishing stone there:

    Ardennes Coticule - Producer of the Coticule whetstone!

    I didn't add those exclamation points, btw...

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    I see You still have a asking about a paste 600 wher i found it. I ask becuse when i look for The paste on Internet thats all. For me its be wery strainge to polishing edge on 8k and then downgrade to 600 grit but who's know mayne it's a good methood

    About a cromium oxide I found that kremel pigment when earley read You post thanks I connsdering what pigment will be the best but no one try a 44210 then I wait 10 days for a 44200 most people whe buy it whas happy

    About a stone a Belgian stone it's great but for me it's little to expensive and when I try to use norton then I don't wanna use other stone when I look stone other was smaller or don't have that grit. Last time I buy my first ston one classicshaving it was not chep (package from USA to Poland) and price of stone becuse for that same price I be have 3 stones on kraftsmamstudio but kraftsmamstudio don't sen international package and that's it's a problem. But you know when stone lome to me I was lagging like a little Childe it's was fantastic I'm wery happy from that stone, and know colect money to lower grint stone

    That guy from diamond paste - I buy from him "my" first razor and dovo black and red past and diamond 1/2 mikron paste.

    For test I know diamond it's not for me. I use only diamond plate for flatering stone, but for my skin I wanna try a chromium.

    And from that another question whit what proportion I must mix a pigment and what stuff I must use (mineral oil correct?)
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    I don't think it is critical how you mix the Chromium Oxide powder with the oil you are using. Put a very small amount of powder in a small bowl, and add a drop of oil. Mix it with a QTip (stick with end covered with cotton used to clean inside of ears), or with a small stick, anything that will stir. You should end up with a spreadable paste. Paste that on your strop or balsa, but don't overdo it! A little will do. You can always add more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cube View Post
    I see You still have a asking about a paste 600 wher i found it. I ask becuse when i look for The paste on Internet thats all. For me its be wery strainge to polishing edge on 8k and then downgrade to 600 grit but who's know mayne it's a good methood

    About a cromium oxide I found that kremel pigment when earley read You post thanks I connsdering what pigment will be the best but no one try a 44210 then I wait 10 days for a 44200 most people whe buy it whas happy

    About a stone a Belgian stone it's great but for me it's little to expensive and when I try to use norton then I don't wanna use other stone when I look stone other was smaller or don't have that grit. Last time I buy my first ston one classicshaving it was not chep (package from USA to Poland) and price of stone becuse for that same price I be have 3 stones on kraftsmamstudio but kraftsmamstudio don't sen international package and that's it's a problem. But you know when stone lome to me I was lagging like a little Childe it's was fantastic I'm wery happy from that stone, and know colect money to lower grint stone

    That guy from diamond paste - I buy from him "my" first razor and dovo black and red past and diamond 1/2 mikron paste.

    For test I know diamond it's not for me. I use only diamond plate for flatering stone, but for my skin I wanna try a chromium.

    And from that another question whit what proportion I must mix a pigment and what stuff I must use (mineral oil correct?)
    Ok, if I'm understanding you right you're asking about the grit. As others have said, CrO comes in different grits, like diamond pastes. The link in that thread is CrO that is a grit that is good for straight razors, .5 micron, or 30,000 grit.

    As far as the diamond paste goes, if you're coming off the 8k Norton your edge is still going to be a little rough, and the diamond paste would sharpen it further, but it does leave a rough edge. If you follow the diamond with the CrO it smooths the edge out and takes away the harshness that the diamond leaves. Its at your discretion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    CrOx is .5 Micron. So that means it's roughly the equivalent of a 30,000 shapton (.49m), or 8000 JIS Sandpaper...

    I'm not sure where you got 60,000.

    And, just for the record, the JIS only goes up to 8000, so anything after than is non-standard as far as Japanese stones are concerned...
    Hand american lists the CrO grit as 60,000 on their containers. I thought CrO was 60k for a while, too.

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    as we have already said, everybody uses his own grit rating system, without even saying wich one they are referring to.
    30k,60k, 50k... nevermind. Even WITH the grit system you get in trouble,
    because both 30k, 50k and 60k are used in Mesh for 1/2 micron particles.
    (although 30k I have only seen on Shapton Stones)
    I don´t even know the JIS rating for 1/2micron.

    I just use 0.5µm sharpening particles. That´s all.
    If there is only a number given ie. 60k I ask the seller specificly.

    The Oil-Chromium ratio is no science.
    I dip the tip of my finger into the powder (wich I don´t recommend)
    or use a very small tip of a knive, mix it in a disposable container with a drop of oil
    and mix. You should instantly get a deep colour.
    I then dip my finger into the colour (wouldn´t do that, too)
    and paint the leather in a very thin layer.

    Then I let dry for a second and rub a bottle on the leather
    to work the particles in.
    Strop a kitchen knive or something else before you put your razor to it,
    in order to work the chromium in.
    And your done

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    Ok thanks to all You guys for that large request for my question, today i order a kremer 44200 pigment and i then i only must find a mineral oil. When i recive my order an make paste i write a litle about my experience.

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    ok big news i recive 3 days ago a some small package whit Kremel pigment. I never susspous that i like a natural smel of that stuff. But anyway when i got it then i mix a small piece (teaspoo) whit 4ml of mineral oil then put that on leather.

    Yesterdey a test that after honing on 4k/8k norton 15 laps on linen side 15 on strop whit that chromium stuff and 30 on normal strop. And mayby i don`t know but i don`t feel any difrences.

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