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01-12-2013, 03:05 PM #11
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Thank you for stepping in and making me/us aware Glen. Its a good read and has made me reconsider a few things. Here's the link Gents.
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cudarunner (01-13-2013)
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01-12-2013, 04:41 PM #12
Hi,
I'd like to know more about this statement. This didn't pop-up during my searches on the forum. My understanding was that I should keep the leather strop clean and use the canvas/linen/silk/felt part of the strop for the finishing/refreshing paste. I'm asking because I just ordered a balsa wood bench-strop along with chromox powder and I was planning on using this instead of the felt part of the strop I ordered with it.
Gearhead, if you're in Canada, classicedge.ca is the only place I found (so far) chromox in dry powder form this side of the border (its the 3oz package from Hand American, for 16$ I assume it's a good deal(?)).
Cheers.
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01-12-2013, 07:07 PM #13
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Thanked: 13249Ok let me explain the "Genesis of the Balsa Expolsion" on the shaving forums
Pastes have been around in sharpening razors for the entire time straight razors have been used, they are not new, they are old school..
The new pastes are however "Better" at what they do and basically more pure more uniform etc: etc:
Now for years people on here used pretty much their old leather strop for pastes and their new leather strop for plain leather. (you needed 2 strops)
Which paste was the best paste for your face was always a big question on the forum, somebody made a suggestion that was a flow over from a Woodworking background (much like the Magic Marker Test is) to use a Balsa strip as a test strop.. You could try the CrOx the Diamond The CBN the Dovo and TI pastes and never permanetly impregnate a leather strop.. basically a cheap dirty way of testing many pastes
Of course several of the guys decided this was a good market for Dumb Newbs to waste money and stated promoting "Balsa Strops" (you needed 1 leather strop now) next thing was the "Too Harsh Explosion" using pastes went from a good thing to everyone saying "OOOOOoooo pastes are too Harsh" the only change was the balsa
Over the years many newer inovations have hit the strop market like Felts and Bench style strops, and Pastes are now coming back strong as people are using softer media under the pastes and getting excellent results..
Pastes change effectiveness not only with grit and type of particles, but also with the bed they are used on, Balsa is a "Very Effective" surface in fact it might be a bit "Too" effective for some pastes and some razors..
IME
Effectiveness from High To low
Balsa
Linen
Leather
Felt
So if you want a nice S M O O T H edge you want to use Leather or Felt for your pastes if you need more cutting power then you want to use Balsa or Linen..
Of course this is followed by the YMMV statement for the inivitable next post that says "I use Balsa and I like it"
And if you like the effect of Balsa then all you need is $1 and a Home Depot, A "Balsa Strop" is a piece of wood
"And now you know the rest of the story"
TY PaulHarvey
Ps: There is a trend toward a Micro Fiber "Strop" used for CBN that I have not used enough to make a recommendation about.. So if any one has used it, and the other medias, could rank it in there I would appreciate itLast edited by gssixgun; 01-13-2013 at 01:12 AM.
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01-12-2013, 07:17 PM #14
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01-12-2013, 07:21 PM #15
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Thanked: 13249No problem brother, sitting at Starbucks waiting for the wife to finish her shopping, hehehe would much rather be doing this then following her around
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01-12-2013, 10:04 PM #16
Hey! "I use Balsa and I like it"
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Neil Miller (11-04-2013)
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01-13-2013, 02:40 AM #17
Where to buy inexpensive Chromium Oxide Paste?
I'm another guy who pulled the trigger on economical CrOx before I knew any better. I ordered the big Formax 6 oz. bar online, pasted up the backside of my Tony Miller linen strop, and went to town. I have no doubt that it contains some over-size particles, but I've been using it for over two years and getting mirror-bright, hair-popping edges, especially when followed up with 60 polishing strokes on the Latigo. I'm too cheap to get rid of it, and as another poster said, it's enough for several lifetimes. But I'd get the fine stuff if I had it to do again.
There are many roads to sharp.
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01-13-2013, 04:08 AM #18
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Thanked: 2Wow! What a great variety of responses! Thank you! I will have to reread these posts several times to derive full benefit
FWIW, I have a water based Chromium Oxide mix that I use just on my Balsa strop. I ordered some Chromium Oxide paste from SRD for around 20 clams-it's the .5 micron paste. Have a really nice Bridle/Latigo leather dual strop and plan on applying the Chromium Oxide paste to the Bridle Leather, as I already have a Bridle leather Big Daddy Strop, but no Latigo Leather strop. Also bought a block of .5 micron Chromium Oxide from Sharpening Supplies.com. They call it their "green honing compound". Any feedback on either of these products is greatly appreciated-Great forum!-Gearhead
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01-13-2013, 08:07 AM #19
The CrOx they sell at Whipped Dog is repackaged from Kremer Pigments (Chrome Oxide Green - Mineral Pigments - Kremer Pigments Inc.), where it's sold as pigment for artists' paint. You can get 100g for $7.80US. That's enough to last several lifetimes. I've been using it on the balsa I got from Whipped Dog with their Poor Man's Strop kit and, along with the Iron Oxide on the other side, it's kept my razor nice and sharp.
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01-17-2013, 04:37 AM #20
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Thanked: 8I've been using SRD CrOx on a linen strop with great touch up results.