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    One day I stropped my blade after cleaning it under hot water (~135 degrees F) and it felt "buttery" on the strop. Over the last three months, I have experimented with stropping cold and after ~30 seconds under hot water. There is a decidedly different sound and feel with a warm blade, and the HHT is excellent from head to toe. My hypothesis is that heating the blade makes it a bit softer, more malleable, and responsive to the burnishing effect of stropping. A reduced number of strokes seems to be just as effective as many more strokes on a cold blade. Try it and let me know what you think.
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    Haven't tried it that way, but there is a difference in my stropping when I warm the strop enough with the heel of the hand so that it feels hot, then strop the razor.. I always figure it warmed the oils in the strop and made them more better


    don't know the reason but a warm strop seems to work best for me..

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    That's kind of cool - thanks for posting your observation.

    Somehow (intuitively anyway), it makes sense that the blade would be more malleable. I'll take your word for it that that translates into a better stropping experience. Maybe I'll give it a shot .
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Haven't tried it that way, but there is a difference in my stropping when I warm the strop enough with the heel of the hand so that it feels hot, then strop the razor.. I always figure it warmed the oils in the strop and made them more better


    don't know the reason but a warm strop seems to work best for me..
    Good point. Yes, I too vigorously prep the strop with the ball of my palm to warm up the leather, then I heat my SR under running hot water before stropping. Heating up the steel seems to have a positive effect on the feel.

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    I have to serously doubt a blade at 130 degs is more malleable,but a warm blade and or strop has a diff feel for sure,no clue as to why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    I have to serously doubt a blade at 130 degs is more malleable,but a warm blade and or strop has a diff feel for sure,no clue as to why.
    My hypothesis is that heating the blade makes it a bit softer, more malleable, and responsive to the burnishing effect of stropping.

    You may be right, but I think temperature differences at the microscopic level may have more effect than you think. Give it a try, then let me know your results.

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    I have to wonder, if we're talking about heating / warming the blade using friction from the strop, you'd have to get quite the speed up to actually cause any significant warming? I can see heating the blade via hot water, maybe, but hot enough to make the metal malleable?

    I'm not a metallurgist, but it would be interesting to hear if in fact the level of heat generated via these methods would actually have any affect??

    Hmmmmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gammaray View Post
    My hypothesis is that heating the blade makes it a bit softer, more malleable, and responsive to the burnishing effect of stropping.

    You may be right, but I think temperature differences at the microscopic level may have more effect than you think. Give it a try, then let me know your results.
    After shaving and rinsing my blade in hot water,130ish degs, it sets fore maybe 10 mins whilst I rinse my brush etc,by than the blade is still warm, maybe 90 degs,Is a diff in the feel for sure (subtle) as I said, no clue as to why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrank View Post
    I have to wonder, if we're talking about heating / warming the blade using friction from the strop, you'd have to get quite the speed up to actually cause any significant warming? I can see heating the blade via hot water, maybe, but hot enough to make the metal malleable?

    I'm not a metallurgist, but it would be interesting to hear if in fact the level of heat generated via these methods would actually have any affect??

    Hmmmmm....

    We were building a stainless tank at work about two years ago, and every morning we got a different measurement than in the afternoon heat.
    Keep in mind this things circumference was over 140 feet and the material was 3/4 in. thick.
    Every day it would " grow" 3/8 to 1/2 in. as the day got warmer. That being said what would a temp change of 50 degrees do to a piece of steel where at its smallest point ( not counting the sharpened edge itself ) is just thousandths of an inch thick?

    Just something to ponder.

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    The oils in the strop could become thinner giving you a better stropping effect but malleability of the steel can't be affected at that temperature... as far as I know.
    Expansion & contraction is a scientific fact & steel will expand 0.12% at 180ºF. I don't know what consequence that would be to stropping.
    A change in malleability tho seems to imply a change in temper & hot water simply won't do that to steel under Newtonian physics.

    Maybe Quantum physics at work & you may be 100% right about the malleability but the Heisenberg principle says I can't be certain.
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