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    I have been SR shaving for around 3 weeks, so I am still a beginner. I have a 5/8 Ralf Aust with the plastic scales that I acquired from SRD. It has started to tug a little and I would like to touch it up. I do not hone (yet), but I have two strops; hanging strop with poly back and Lynn's SRD Modular Strop kit. The latter came with the .5 micro diamond spray. I also have the .5 micron CROx crayon from SRD.


    As a beginner, what would it better or easier for me at this point? Should I install the CROx paste on the back of the poly hanging strop OR should I spray one of the felt pieces of the modular strop with the diamond spray?


    Having read some of the forum posts, I think many of you have a preference. I would like to know which works better and which would be easier for me as a beginner.




    Thank you all in advance for this answer and thank you all for helping me immensely in the past months. I would never have had the guts to put a blade to my face if it hadn't been for many of you. I am very grateful.


    However, I have spent way too much money and there seems to be no end in sight :-)

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    So, your problem is a common one for those learning to shave and maintain a razor. It is your stropping that is dulling the razor and until your stropping improves you will have this issue. A pasted strop is an abrasive strop that if used improperly will only cause more damage, quicker. So be warned, paste may resolve your issue or make it worst.

    First, get a good lighted loupe, you can buy a good lighted 60X for 2-5 dollars. Look at the edge and see what is causing your issue, then take steps needed to resolve those issues.

    .50 diamond, can refresh a razor or ruin the edge. Give that… spray the diamond on your felt and do 5-6 laps, after it dries, test the edge. Go slow, keep the spine on the strop and stop before you flip, use light pressure.

    If the edge shaves well but is harsh. Proper stropping on linen and leather may calm it, if not some good Chrome Oxide will do so.

    Unfortunately, there is no, one size fits all, easy answer to your issue or most razor issues, because you have to do what the razor needs. Diagnosing the problem is 95 percent of fixing razor problems. It does get easier and your shaves will improve with time and practice.

    As has been said many times, finding a local mentor for some hands on training, it will dramatically cut your learning curve.
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    I would spray one felt with diamond and paste the other with the crox. 5 laps on each then linen and leather. Euclid has given you the best advice. Find the problem and fix it dont just paste and hope. Good luck
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    Well, I wouldn't apply any crox or diamond spray to the back of the webbing on the hanging strop. I know it's an option, but it will migrate from that surface to the other strop elements, and it's abrasive, and once there, well....it's there.

    The modular strop is a really good medium for mixing different stropping applications since you remove elements, and be sure to wipe down between changes if crox or diamond, etc. are used.

    I'd apply the crox to one of the pressed wool pieces and try it first. It's less aggressive and gives a nice edge. If you're edge is too far gone, you can try the diamond on the other pressed wool element and it's a bit more aggressive.

    But, as Euclid said....you're stropping technique determines the results.

    Here's a few videos that may help with crox or diamond application and stropping.

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    SirStropalot - thank you for the help!!! I believe I have the stropping down pretty well and have been doing fine with my razor until the last couple of shaves. It makes sense to me now to use the crox first and see what happens. Also, I thought I watched all of Lynn's videos for beginners, but I seem to have missed the one on the modular strop for touchup.

    I am going to shave one more time with the razor prior to using the crox just to make sure it wasn't my technique. I have another razor that I acquired from eBay that said it was shave ready (J.A. Henckels Friodur 451). I shaved with it yesterday and it seemed to do a better job than my RA. So, due to this last shave I am thinking that it is not my stropping or my technique. I suppose the next shave will tell :-)

    Thanks to all of you for the help.
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    Congrats on the lucky dip. Sounds like you got a ebay razor that was actually shave ready. So it's not a urban legend
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    Yes, I guess that eBay razor was just the luck of the draw. I am not sure if I want to try for another; time will tell.

    I did try my RA again today and I confirmed it was tugging pretty bad relative to my other razor; finished my shave with the other razor. I pasted a felt pad from the modular strop with .5 crox and did 5 passes, wiped it, 20 passes on rough leather, and 30 passes on smooth leather. Prior to trying it tomorrow I will strop again, but with 50 passes. Interested to know how it will turn out. Next update tomorrow.
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    Look forward to your observations after the crox.

    Something to think about: The effects of technique aren't just how the shave feels, but why! Technique can degrade an edge if the blade was used at too steep of an angle causing, basically, the edge to scrape across the skin/beard instead of cutting cleanly. It dulls the edge and shortens its life.

    Other things are......holding the edge at a 90° angle to the cutting pass (basically hitting the whisker like an axe would hit a log), e.g. having the blade straight across the cheek, and then pulling straight down. Depending on the pass, 'a cant' on the blade, a slight heel leading or toe leading stroke gives the edge a slight slicing motion and gives a better cut and extends the life of the edge, not to mention....a much more comfortable shave!

    These are all things that you'll recognize and master, but they're nice to know so you can evaluate your progress and analyze the 'technique'.



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    The next shave was definitely better, however it was not exactly where it should be IMHO. I put it through 5 more passes on the CROx and will try again. I am not too sure whether I put enough CROx paste on the felt pad, but didn't want to put too much. I put what I thought was about right looking at Lynn's video for the modular strop.

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    Look at the edge with magnification, then depending on what you see, correct it.

    Adding more Chrome Oxide will not fix a chipped edge.

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