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10-09-2010, 03:52 AM #1
Doing good but still nicking the strop
Hello All,
I seem to be doing well stropping.
My first strop I cut quite a bit.
I practiced for some time with newspaper and didn't seem to have a problem nicking the strop.
Now I have a new strop and I have nicked this one as well.
Should I begin my return stroke while the razor is turning over? I feel like when I try to stop at the end of the stroke, turn the razor, flatten the blade and begin the return stroke... this is when I gouge the strop. I feel like if I was moving in the other direction while I am flipping the blade I would not push the blade and gouge the strop.
any ideas?
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10-09-2010, 04:08 AM #2
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10-09-2010, 04:13 AM #3
Should be a smooth motion. Don't stop with a jerk. When you reach the end of stroke you just just be starting to flip, and not hit the blade end until you are already moving in the return stroke.
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10-09-2010, 01:37 PM #4
Doing good . . .
Hello, Shoki:
Stropping calls for a series of smooth movements. Yes, as our good friend Ryan points out, the return starts while the blade is turning. Also, the pressure stays light throughout the stropping process. All you need is the razor's weight. Finally, full concentration on what you're doing. Shut everything out and focus on stropping. You'll get there.
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10-09-2010, 04:36 PM #5
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Thanked: 220Lots of good advice here. Stropping too fast like on the movies will also result in nicks. Sometimes the razor hasn't been flipped yet by the time you have already reversed direction. I nicked my first strop to the point where it was un-usable, the nicks are too deep to repair and constantly snag on the blade.
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10-09-2010, 08:37 PM #6
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Thanked: 20I can't speak for the proper way to strop, but what helped me to not nick the strop anymore is to stop at the end of my lap, then turn the blade, then strop again, stop, turn, strop, stop, and turn.
If you try turning while still in motion, I would think you stand a higher chance of nicking your strop.
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10-09-2010, 08:49 PM #7
The 1961 barber manual PDF excerpt on honing and stropping here has has some good suggestions such as practicing the flip without doing the stroke until it is second nature. I also found that holding the tang top and bottom between the tips of the thumb and forefinger made a positive difference. When I held the tang between the end of my thumb and at the first joint of my forefinger I nicked my strop more often. My middle, ring and small finger are lightly supporting the scales. Hard to describe but I've noticed it makes a difference too.
With larger cuts where there is a flap you can sometimes glue them with contact cement. I've only had that happen with one strop and when it was glued back you couldn't even see or feel it. Taught me that if you're going to drink don't strop.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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10-09-2010, 08:49 PM #8
I think you need to figure out what works for you.
Laying the razor down, then making the stroke, then stopping, then flipping, then returning is totally fine. You just need to be 100% sure you will not move the razor in the edge leading direction after you have stopped.
Personally, I strop as Ryan described - I am already moving the razor before the edge touches the strop (the spine is always on the strop). The only thing I would add is that, on the other end of my stroke, I already lift the edge before my stroke is complete. So, if you were to look at edge contact, my edge does not touch the strop for the first inch or two OR the last inch or two. This way, I never have the edge on the strop when the razor is stationary. Since the edge only touches while the spine is leading, there is no way for the edge to cut the strop (that I can think of).
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10-09-2010, 10:51 PM #9
The key word would be a fluid motion. Of course when you start out it ain't gonna be very fluid. So you just start slow and carefully. I'd tell you how I do it but honestly it's become so automatic when I slow down and observe I tend to screw up myself.
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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10-10-2010, 10:21 AM #10
Practice with a butter knife until you can strop in your sleep.
Take it slow. Learning the correct way to do it before you work on the speed.
"Cheap Tools Is Misplaced Economy. Always buy the best and highest grade of razors, hones and strops. Then you are prepared to do the best work."
- Napoleon LeBlanc, 1895