Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18
Like Tree2Likes

Thread: Effect of too much neatsfoot oil on homemade strop?

  1. #1
    still working on my skills klingenmeister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Posts
    47
    Thanked: 4

    Default Effect of too much neatsfoot oil on homemade strop?

    Newbie lurker here, just made a homemade strop from a bovine shoulder. It's 3-4 oz hide and I think I put too much neatsfoot oil on. It takes about 100 strops to get it to pass the hht. For reference I have a full hollow ground dovo ebony-silver steel blade. It shaves alright but I feel it could be sharper to start. It came shave ready. Would over doing it with neatsfoot oil be the cause for either: so many strops needed; or just not getting sharp enough?

    Open to any thoughts....
    Thanks all

  2. #2
    Senior Member blabbermouth JimmyHAD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    32,564
    Thanked: 11042

    Default

    Welcome to SRP. Does the strop feel oily ? Neatsfoot , IME, gives the strop more draw ..... resistance ... and if you don't see it building up on your blade it is probably not too much on the oil. Doing 100 strokes is twice what I do but whether it is too much or not depends on the individual. IMO there is a point of diminishing returns. If you're not expert in stropping more stropping leaves more chance of rolling the edge. Skin stretching, blade angle, direction of attack ..... shave technique in general can make a big difference in how the shave feels even with the sharpest blade. HHT is alright but focus on shave technique more than that and see if your shaves don't improve. Just IMHO.
    Montgomery likes this.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to JimmyHAD For This Useful Post:

    CaliforniaCajun (07-03-2013)

  4. #3
    still working on my skills klingenmeister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Posts
    47
    Thanked: 4

    Default

    I wouldn't say it feels oily but it is definitely supple. I've been looking around and noticing all the new strops are unoiled. Is a harder strop (i.e. less/no oil) better for stropping and in general developing the edge? I would have figured a softer leather would develop the edge slower?

    Shaving is getting a little easier. I'm sure that my oily, thin, high elasticity skin doesn't help anything. Do skinny faced people have a harder time shaving with straight razors? Maybe that's another topic?

  5. #4
    Senior Member blabbermouth JimmyHAD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    32,564
    Thanked: 11042

    Default

    I've got an assortment of strops and some are hard, some supple and some in between. I sort of like a moderately supple strop better than a hard and stiff leather. I think that has as much to do with the thickness of the leather as how it is treated but I guess it depends. I do think thin folks who have nooks and crannies in their cheeks and neck have to stretch and flatten the areas for best results. That is what I have to do. Not sure if a fuller face/neck individual has a easier time or as hard or harder. Ain't been there to see for myself.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

  6. #5
    Not with my razor 🚫 SirStropalot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    1,859
    Thanked: 568

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Not sure if a fuller face/neck individual has a easier time or as hard or harder. Ain't been there to see for myself.
    Well, as the possessor of a slightly "full figured" face, I'd say it's easier. Especially on the jaw line and being able to make an XGT pass which with the direction of growth of my beard is actually an AGT pass from below the ear to the Adams apple on the neck!

    I kind of like a strop with less draw. I started with the buffalo strop from SRD and it has so much natural draw that it was difficult to keep the blade flat. Some of the time the spine would drag enough that the edge would lift a little and then when trying to compensate for that I would over do it and put too much pressure on the edge. Both were detrimental to getting a good stropped edge.

    Good luck klingenmeister and welcome to SRP!!!

    Howard
    Last edited by SirStropalot; 12-30-2011 at 06:12 AM.

  7. #6
    Senior Member blabbermouth Hirlau's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    13,530
    Thanked: 3530

    Default

    I made a strop out of a weightlifting belt from years ago; put a small amount of neats foot oil on it and like JimmyHad said, the resistance (draw) increased tremendously. I now use that strop for my large blade knifes only.

  8. #7
    still working on my skills klingenmeister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Posts
    47
    Thanked: 4

    Default

    Thanks for all the input everyone! I'm going to start with an unoiled piece and work it a bit.
    Kyle

  9. #8
    still working on my skills klingenmeister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Posts
    47
    Thanked: 4

    Default

    Here's the update... cut off a new piece of cow, glass bottle flattened it and then sanded it at 400. Stropped 40 and it now shaves like it should. Thanks everyone for keeping me on the right track!
    Chevhead likes this.

  10. #9
    what Dad calls me nun2sharp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Kansas city area USA
    Posts
    9,173
    Thanked: 1677

    Default

    As long as the oil isnt oozing out of the leather with every pass of the blade, you should be alright. I would be more concerned with your stropping technique, shave prep or shave technique.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

  11. #10
    still working on my skills klingenmeister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Posts
    47
    Thanked: 4

    Default

    It could have been that the oiled strop didn't get sanded and was pretty shiny and smooth - my technique is the same just with vastly different results on the edge. I have plenty of leather so it wasn't too big of a deal to make another strop. I'm still taking it slow just like sharpening my knives.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •