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    Quote Originally Posted by harrygr View Post
    My question is whether oil is necessary for mid term storage (ie 6 months) when you live in a low humidity city, like Athens. Isn't storage in a box with a couple of silica bags enough?


    I thing it is enough Harry. I am not going to oil again razors stored for less than a year.
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    I don't disagree that your razor had cell rot & no oil will protect against an acidic gas but all oil coatings will generally protect against rust if renewed before they oxidise or dry off.
    Don't forget, Camellia oil is not for long term storage. It is a simple vegetable oil that turns rancid & oxidises quickly. 2weeks or less would be the longest I would leave it before reapplying. Your razor mat well have rusted in 6 months just due to the oil you used. Of course a dry airtight storage is also ideal.
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    For some reason cell rot is very common with Double Ducks with clear scales also with cracked ice scales. The dead giveaway is the rust line where the blade is in the scales as in Walt’s photo.

    I suspect heat and past storage has something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
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    For some reason cell rot is very common with Double Ducks with clear scales also with cracked ice scales. The dead giveaway is the rust line where the blade is in the scales as in Walt’s photo.

    I suspect heat and past storage has something to do with it.

    I had a razor box/case that was causing a similar reaction. But in my case, the rust line was the exact opposite (ie, above the scale line). The razor most affected by it is still isolated from the rest just in case. I don't even think the scales are celluloid anyway, rather plastic. But I'm keeping an eye on it anyway. The box is long gone.

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    Was the box celluloid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    Was the box celluloid?
    No, it was mainly wood with a red felt lining that was deteriorating. The wood itself was getting all brittle and crumbling apart as well. There must have been something in its makeup that had a similar reaction. The remaining razors are now in different homes as the one most affected by it is by itself. None of them seem to be reacting any further. It was really odd.

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    Just for future reference

    You don't need to soak them for very long

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    I don't know much about the rot and that but I do know that metal tarnishes and a simple way to keep that down and possible rust of the normal kind is what I am doing. I'm retrofitting appropriate size wooden cigar boxes with a balsa wood divider sectioned off for each razor. I am covering it with silverware cloth that is designed to keep tarnish at bay on silverware. I will line the inside of the cover with the same and leave a silica gel pkg. or two inside or as some one suggested, a vial with rice in it plugged with a wad of cotton, to control humidity. The outside will be painted and decorated according to my whim of the moment (gold leaf initials for example).

    I hope this helps in some way.

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    @Razorfeld

    If Cell Rot is present the absolute worst possible situation that you can create is to have all the razors together in a closed box..

    For long term storage there is a special type of Paper (VCI) wrap that is available that will protect the razors from each other but NOT from the scales that are on that single razor

    For everyone,
    So there is no doubt or question.. Cell rot is insidious and non-reversible, it releases a gas that is acidic it will pockmark and destroy steel very quickly in the later stages..
    The most insidious part of cell rot is that there is no universal tell, there are many recipes that were used in those days for making Celluloid so each is a bit different..


    Basically take each razor out of storage and use it then re-oil or wrap and move to the next razor in your collection.. at least take the razors out once a month and wipe or oil them down and check them...

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    Where can the VCI paper be obtained. Would it be wiser in the long run to change any razor with Celluloid scales as a preemptive move, like Angelina Jolie did. get it before it gets you?

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