Getting greaseless to stick!

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Originally Posted by Atchbo

That's the set of six bars I bought. May be overkill, but it's water under the bridge.

So I need the glue?

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You don't need glue for those. They will color the wheel but not build up like greaseless. If they don't seem to be doing much, it's because they don't. I think only the black emery, green, and white are of use on razors. I believe the others are for softer materials. The black is the coarsest and white the least and the last steps before moving to polishing paste for a mirror finish. They don't have enough cutting grit to get out any serious pits, rust, or scratches. As mentioned, you would need greaseless compound for that.

Check this chart out from where I purchased what I believe are the same products just in a smaller size with Black being the Coarsest and Blue being the finest:

Jewelers Rouge & Polishing Compound Chart - PJ Tool

I hope this is of some help :shrug:

This is exactly your problem. Use smaller wheels like GS said to better get at the hollows of the blade and of course to lower your RPM a bit so as not to throw your layer of compound before it sets,it'll also help prevent over heating of your blade. When funds allow you may want to follow through with your idea of the belt driven buffer,use a quarter to half horse low RPM motor and a step pulley to allow full RPM adjustment and if possible buy or make a leather faced wheel. I made mine by plying 6 discs of leather together with gorilla glue and turning them true to center with a file while under power at the lowest RPM setting,it worked perfectly. I hope it helps.

I don't know if this is true for all situations, but prep your wheels first. I learned this the hard way when compound was not sticking to my cheapo HF wheels. I used a flat head screwdriver and some scissors to get my wheels all set. Are you using spiral sewn wheels, loose cotton....? I am not an expert in this area FYI, while someone like Glenn is so take whatever he says as fact.

For the greaseless compounds, I've been using this method: turn the machine on at 1750; keep one hand on the on switch; press the compound against the wheel; leave the wheel on for about a second; then turn the switch off while keeping the compound pressed against the wheel. The wheel slows down fast, dragging the compound into it but not slinging it.

I picked this up from a video by someone who does it professionally.

The alternative I've seen and sometimes used is to leave the wheel running at 1750 and push the compound against the wheel for only a second at a time. One second on, two second off, one second on, two seconds off, and so on.

Joe

GLUE ? I just been putting it to the wheel.

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Originally Posted by carrolljc

For the greaseless compounds, I've been using this method: turn the machine on at 1750; keep one hand on the on switch; press the compound against the wheel; leave the wheel on for about a second; then turn the switch off while keeping the compound pressed against the wheel. The wheel slows down fast, dragging the compound into it but not slinging it.

I picked this up from a video by someone who does it professionally.

The alternative I've seen and sometimes used is to leave the wheel running at 1750 and push the compound against the wheel for only a second at a time. One second on, two second off, one second on, two seconds off, and so on.

Joe

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The guys that KNOW have weighed in. They all have been spot on with their advise. Please try it and let the rest of the community know how it works out.A big thanks to10Pups for the greaseless samples I put it on just like the guys said . Did just so. I hope you reap the same positive results I did.

Another consideration: a well-raked wheel takes compound better than a new wheel that has not been raked or a used wheel that has old compound on it. For raking, I've been flipping the switch to 3500 and raking thoroughly. That kicks up a lot of fluff. A dust collector is a good thing to have going at that time.

Joe

Thanks guys. I don't have any projects at the buffing stage but will try the suggestions you have offered. I think the smaller wheels and turning the motor off should help, and now I recognize the difference between buffing compounds and greaseless.