Thread: Getting greaseless to stick!

Hi guys,

Did someone have a trick for getting greaseless compounds to stick to cotton buffing wheels? I bought a set of six compounds and am starting with black and white, but they seem to be wasted far more than they stick. Any suggestions?

I think the buffer might be a bit fast at 1750 rpm and 8" buffing wheels. I might see if I can make my buffer into a pulley-driven machine, but I'm out of extra money!

Did you apply this to the wheel first Greaseless - Caswell Canada the glue stuff

Need more info

Black and White ???

Type of wheel

Trick I used to use,is spray the wheel with WD 40,than the greasless.

PS:

SFPM = Surface Feet Per Minute is the operative part of buffing, so by changing the 8 inch wheel to a 4 inch you will accomplish two things, both good

1. You will cut your SFPM in half with the same buffer set up

2. Using a 4 inch wheel allows you to get into the hollows better when buffing from spine to edge


pps: Good Reading here except ignore anything the says PRESSURE we don't use PRESSURE when doing razors

http://www.caswellplating.com/buffs/images/Buffbook.pdf

Awesome, thanks gssixgun.

I bought a set of 6 wheels and 6 compounds from Caswell, and a rake. I started with the cutting compound (black) and then first polishing compound (white) and have rouge, green (presumably crox) as well. Have sisal, sewn and loose cotton wheels.

I may get the glue and/or try the wd40.

Thanks!

Ok there is where I got confused

Those are not greaseless, the Formax compounds from Caswells are the greaseless ones

Standard Buffing Compounds - Buffing/Polishing - Caswell Inc

They are rated by Grit from 60 -600 good luck finding the 60 hehehe most of use start at 80

These are actual cutting compounds (Will flash sparks when used) as oposed to the Polishing compounds on that page..

Most of us use both Greaseless and Polishing compounds

Thanks to a friend I have some nice sized samples of actual 'greaseless' and the glue to try before buying. However I had previously ordered what I 'knew' were 'polishing compounds' and not greaseless 'abrasives'.

Caswell offers a 'group' of the larger bars of what I believe are the same polishing compounds but at another site I found 'thumb sized samples' for a very reasonable price.

Here's Caswell's offer:

Jumbo Buffing Compound Starter Pack - Standard Buffing Compounds - Buffing/Polishing - Caswell Inc

Here's what I purchased so I could 'Play' and see how it all went:

Junior 6 pc. Jewelers Rouge & Polishing Compound Kit

Even with shipping I found it economical to use the samples to play with and very informative about what they will and won't do.

I do hope this is of some help/if not to you but to others looking to use other materials to accomplish their goals.

That's the set of six bars I bought. May be overkill, but it's water under the bridge.

So I need the glue?

First and foremost to the best of my knowledge you don't need any glue with the products you have purchased so far.

I wouldn't look at it as 'Overkill' as the reason I ordered the 'sample kit' was because the polishing compounds are supposed to have a 10 year shelf life and I'm a very small operator. I figured that by sampling I could pick and choose which ones would work best for straights. I've found that the Blue worked great on some plastic and celluloid scales that had bolsters but that was with my buffer and not at 1725 rpm.

I don't want to hijack your thread but you'd mentioned about possibly converting to a belt driven machine. If you're interested in seeing my variable speed buffer just click on my 'handle' and check out my latest threads you should find it.

I've played a little with the greaseless but only a little. I was hoping to play more during my vacation but life got in the way. Besides I need to order more 4" spiral wound cotton wheels so that I can dedicate each one to a specific grit of greaseless or polish but again life gets in the way ($$$$$$) No ($$$$$$$) no wheels!

I've told every apprentice that I've ever tried to help that family comes first and that's true here at The Boars Nest!!