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05-14-2016, 11:32 AM #1
Rust under the rubber grip
So as the title suggests I found rust forming under the grip in my puma 63. I have unpinned it and can clean it up easily enough but was looking for suggestions as to how to seal the area to stop it from happening again.
Was also interested if anyone knows where to get new pins. It has one side that is already formed and is flat but needs the other side peened as normal. Pisc below.
My wife calls me.........Can you just use Ed
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05-14-2016, 07:15 PM #2
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Thanked: 15Pins look like Dovo pins. Pretty common on the bay, Classic Shave and others. Rust? Seems like a good glue would seal it and keep it from moving. They experts will let you know in a min, I'm sure
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05-14-2016, 09:29 PM #3
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Thanked: 351Yep... Dovo pins would do the job. As for sealing the rubber..... My personal choice would be to loose the rubber and not bother, but if you must..... RTV silicone would be my choice. Do not confuse RTV with regular silicone caulk/sealent. RTV releases a solvent, regular silicone sealant releases acetic acid, aka vinegar.... and will corrode the area even more.
The problem with sealing an enclosed area covered by rubber is that you never really know for sure that there isn't a void under the rubber where moisture could accumulate.... If moisture gets in.... corrosion follows promptly. If the rubber collar is clear, you can see any voids.... if it's black.... well, you'll never really know, until it's too late. If you are really really really careful when you fill the rubber cover with RTV and you are dead nuts sure it does not have any voids, you'll be just fine. It comes down to the "dead nuts certain" bit..... and only YOU can know if you are confident or not.
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Christian"Aw nuts, now I can't remember what I forgot!" --- Kaptain "Champion of lost causes" Zero
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05-15-2016, 10:37 AM #4
It has a depressed section in the tang that is far from uniform or smooth so even cleaned up it wouldn't look good and would also decrease the value as the rubber is original from factory and not on that many razors.
Even if there was a coating I could put on the metal in this area then have the rubber sleeve overtop that would be good. That allows for future work and wouldn't have the chance of irreparably damaging the sleeve which would be hard to replace.
Will have to check out the American bay as on the aussie site there is only one and that looks silver.My wife calls me.........Can you just use Ed
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05-15-2016, 11:02 AM #5
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Thanked: 3228In a way you are lucky that your blade is stainless steel. It should clean up easily and if you keep that area from getting wet in the future you should not have too much of a problem with rust. New rubber covers are next to impossible to get, I believe.
Those "nail head" type of pins are fairly new and not original to that razor at a guess. You can get those pins from The Classic Edge Straight Razor Pins & Washers and Revisor Spare parts . There are other places I am sure but those are 2 that I know of.
BobLife is a terminal illness in the end
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05-15-2016, 12:33 PM #6
Maybe an acrylic paint or sealer might work tnen just place the rubber back over it when dry?
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05-15-2016, 01:38 PM #7
What about some kind of tape as a liner underneath the grip? Waterproof tape maybe? Just a thought..
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05-15-2016, 01:48 PM #8
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Thanked: 3228Are you sure those are the new "nail head" style pins because looking at the photos they appear to be the old style?
This might be a help for doing pins the old fashion way Un-pinning and re-pinning a razor - Straight Razor Place Library . That is under "making and repining yer razors" section.
BobLife is a terminal illness in the end
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05-15-2016, 01:52 PM #9
Without hijacking the thread, is there anywhere to get replacement rubber grips? I have a Filharmonic with a similar issue. Unfortunately the rubber has dry rotted and allowed moisture to do the same. Once the rust was clean, I was planning on using a coat of Renaissance wax to prevent it from occurring again. Problem is, the rubber grip is beyond repair. It just looks funny to me without, particularly when sitting in the scales.
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05-15-2016, 07:42 PM #10
Thanks for sharing the issue with your Puma. It's something I'll have to be aware of.
Tony