No drills in Sheffield?

[Clayglen]

Cleaning up a M. George & Sons. I removed the broken scale and the pivot hole is huge and tapered from both sides. It appears the used a punch to knock a hole in it while red hot from both sides.
Is this common on old razors or is it just a Sheffield thing? My Wade and butcher is the same way.
Guess I'll break out the shim tubing.

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[KenG]

Now that you mention it, I just checked a HH Taylor near wedge I'm working and it looks like that. At first I thought they used the worlds wobbliest drill, but under magnification it does look punched.

In the library there is a good pic of filling the hole with epoxy then you can drill thru it - that's what I plan to do...

[BobH]

Yup, I think it is pretty common with old Sheffie razors. Lots of threads on how to fix that if you want to.

Bob

[KsStraightShaver]

Yes it is common I have a set of GW&S IXL's that are like that. The shim tubing will work but I tend to use Jb weld as it's an epoxy that's waterproof an is silverish.

[sharptonn]

Unless you have the blade walking forward and hitting the wedge, there is no need to bush the hole, IMO.
I also do not use thrust washers with old Sheffields in horn. To me, they work best as they were made.
Just me!

[sqzbxr]

Unless you have the blade walking forward and hitting the wedge, there is no need to bush the hole, IMO.
I also do not use thrust washers with old Sheffields in horn. To me, they work best as they were made.
Just me!

I fully concur!

[onimaru55]

Yes, pivot holes were hot punched on Sheffield razors & scales were also long enough to allow for some creep.
Pretty 'agricultural' huh ?

[KenG]

Unless you have the blade walking forward and hitting the wedge, there is no need to bush the hole, IMO.
I also do not use thrust washers with old Sheffields in horn. To me, they work best as they were made.
Just me!

OK I'm all ears ready to receive this instruction. My HH Taylor is definitely old Sheff with good black horn currently soaking in Neets F Oil.

When I unpinned it I noticed no washer between tang and horn. So it is recommended to repin it like that with no inside washer ???

[Suticat]

Most of my restores have been done without washers. When I took them out of the d scales they didn't have any in so I never replaced them. I have used them on blades that just gave me fits for some reason and wouldn't quite center for a reason that I couldn't figure out. But that is rare.

[karlej]

Unless you have the blade walking forward and hitting the wedge, there is no need to bush the hole, IMO.
I also do not use thrust washers with old Sheffields in horn. To me, they work best as they were made.
Just me!

I agree no bushing is generally needed. I do frequently find Sheffield razors in horn with thrust washers. I just finished a Wosti today that had them and I reinstalled them. It was a pre-1890 razor. I do not find them on the early razors but I'll take a WAG and say they are common enough in 1870 and later blades. I think they make the blade pivoting smoother and keeps the scales from rubbing on the tang when closed. I install them as routine unless someone specifies not too. I think like in manufacturing today companies are always trying to lean out their processes. If they had not served a positive function the makers would have simply left them out and saved a penny a razor.