Need help centering the razor

I tried pinning the razor three times already and I always get the same effect. I tried adding two washers but I ended up in a similar situation. The scales are a bit warped but I doubt that's the problem. Unfortunately, I still don't understand what's the problem and I would appreciate some help.
Here are some pictures:

Razor was pinned enough to keep the blade in the air. As you can see there, it will hit the scale:
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Applying some pressure with my fingers to make the razor stay centered:
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Both pins:
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View from the top:
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Pivot:
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Although I would like to fix this problem I would like to understand how bad is this for the blade. If I am careful opening and closing and applying pressure every day, would it get fixed automagically?

Thanks for reading!

Did you test the razor while it was out of the scales to see if it was straight ???

Knowing if it is the razor or the scales that are "off" is the first step

As of now Boil a pot of water, hold the blade, dip that scales and the Pivot for about 5-10 seconds (Start slow) then twist gently as it cools and see if you can't get it centered

Looking for the pics to show you how I test them FIRST

Here

http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...ing-razor.html

and here

http://i.imgur.com/Fi5kJZu.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/Sn95Jb9.jpg

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Did you test the razor while it was out of the scales to see if it was straight ???

Knowing if it is the razor or the scales that are "off" is the first step

As of now Boil a pot of water, hold the blade, dip that scales and the Pivot for about 5-10 seconds (Start slow) then twist gently as it cools and see if you can't get it centered

Looking for the pics to show you how I test them FIRST

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90% sure the blade is fine. The scales are a bit warped.
Any reason why you recommend boiling water and twist instead of starting from the scratch?
Would leaving it like this harm the blade?

Thanks!

Because it might be that simple

If not then break it down and start again :)

No it will not harm the razor as long as the edge doesn't touch the scales, it usually will at the worst time :(

The very first pic, holds the answer to your problem.
Unpin it, and restraighten the scales. Then make sure the holes line up, and Repin it.

Your wedge pin is loose, and has let the scales warp. This causes tourqe on the pins, and why everything is out of alignment.

Did the razor close centered, before you unpinned it?

The scales are crooked, bent to the left/back side, (see photo 1), and they are pinned crooked, (see photo 6), it shows the pivot pin is not perpendicular to the scales or blade. The pin is canted forward on the left/back side.

Photo 2, shows the left scale, is forward of the wedge and the right scale is short of the end of the wedge, by at least an 1/8 inch.

Additionally, the blade is tapered on the left/back side, the right side is flatter.

These three things are combining to push the razor tip, to the right/face/stamped side.

First unpin and straighten the scales, pin the wedge side first, with no glue on the wedge and ensure the pin is straight and the scales are even. Then pin the pivot.

It may still want to push to the face side, because of the taper on the tang, but you can push the pin, as Glenn said to center, but you should be a lot closer to center to begin with.

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I have never pinned so take this with a grain of salt. In the pic with the blade up, showing the pivot point, the tang is off center. This being so close to the tang area it makes me think the holes are not lined up. Maybe drill them at an angle just a bit to straighten/line them up and repin? Im just guessing here but if the holes are not perfectly lined up this would happen.

Looks like factory scales, so the holes are probably drilled straight.

They are not aligned, because the wedge pin was not tight, when the pivot was pinned and the scales are warped.

Look at the scales at the wedge in photo 3.

The pins are not straight and may be bent. No need to re-drill.

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Originally Posted by Gasman

I have never pinned so take this with a grain of salt. In the pic with the blade up, showing the pivot point, the tang is off center. This being so close to the tang area it makes me think the holes are not lined up. Maybe drill them at an angle just a bit to straighten/line them up and repin? Im just guessing here but if the holes are not perfectly lined up this would happen.

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Sorry, I must strongly suggest that you disregard this suggestion. The scales are clearly warped, and re-drilling them will only ensure that they remain warped. Several of the most experienced restorers on this forum have recommended unpinning, straightening the scales, and then carefully repinning to ensure proper alignment and stability. Good luck!

Like I said, I was guessing. Never having done this stuff I didn't want anyone to think to go on what I had to say alone. It was just what I was seeing. Hope you get it all corrected soon. And dont listen to a newbee! :nono:

Guys, I ended up using hot water and applying some pressure. Great result in less than two minutes.
Fixing the warped scales might be the long term plan, but for now, I am happy with the result.

Thank all!

Message me when u run into this problem again... or if the blade isn't perfectly center...

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Originally Posted by cmsessa

Pivot:
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In the photo the pin looks lower on left side and higher on right side with the scales looking even. I know the photo is not perfectly aligned but it looks like some of my first attempts at drilling/pinning. A fine art in itself. ;)