Thanks guys. I'll check the HF down the street. I've been honing for the last 7 hours on 4 different razors. They always look good but just dont feel right on the thumb. And wont cut a whisker. Sorry, I'm just fed up. I'm going to do something that has nothing to do with razors for the rest of the day. Maybe go back to watching honing vids again this eve.

Sorry for the change in subject. I'll let you know what I buy at HF.