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    Here is the page that shows how I built my frameback razors. I felt a little funny about posting this link after this evening. I am in St Paul MN this week attending a workshop for work. Randy Tuttle took me to visit Doc Molenaar’s and Mike Blue’s shops this evening. While at Mike’s shop he tested the hardness of the blades on two of my framebacks. One came out at 50 Rockwell C the other at 49Rockwell C this was quite a surprise to me. I have been shaving for about a month with the razor that tested at 50 with one touch up on a pasted hanging strop. I would rate the razor as one of my top shavers. The razor that came out at 49 is the latest razor that I made, I have not test shaved with it yet..

    I have learned three (really more) things

    (1) my heat treating in not what I thought it was
    (2) that a razor can be at 50RC and still shave very well
    (3) there are some real nice people in Minnesota

    Thanks Randy and Mike

    Charlie

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    Not sure if its just me, but there were no pictures whatsoever. Just the youtube video. It sounds like there should be pictures? Maybe not?

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    I can see the pictures, very cool. You're an innovative guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD_SCHOOL View Post
    Not sure if its just me, but there were no pictures whatsoever. Just the youtube video. It sounds like there should be pictures? Maybe not?
    The first line in the post is a link to everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimensch View Post
    The first line in the post is a link to everything.
    That's right, and there's no pictures showing up at my end.

    So I gather I still got some serious pc issues. Coz Webcast didn't work the other day either.

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    Fantastic Charlie !

    Really generous of you to take the time to share what you've learnt...

    You've come up with some innovative solutions there too mate... great stuff !!

    Greg Frazer

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    Thanks, Charlie - this really does inspire me to hopefully make a razor from scratch one day! Way to go! What would you do differently with regards to heat treating next time?

    Thanks again,
    Mark

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    That's great stuff, thanks for sharing your knowledge. It just goes to show, beautiful things can be made with simple tools.

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    Mike performed the same eye-opening hardness testing for me. I hit 54 HRC, but I was using a steel that I had a pretty good heat-treating recipe for. Another razor from that batch turned out to be a great shaver, so I concur with your conclusion that a blade doesn't have to be ultra hard to work well.

    Heat-treating is about knowledge first, with control a close second. You need to know what you have to do, then you need the tools to help you to stick as close to the recipe as possible.

    The first piece of knowledge you need is what results you're getting with your current process.

    Josh

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    Beautiful razor, by the way.

    Josh

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