Thread: Sleeving or filling an oversized pivot hole

Dude, Kevin said it is fine that way, just leave it be...

Max, Alex, Stefan, Brad, Matt, Dan, myself and every other restorer that fixes them is wasting our time apparently... sorry for the bother, that floppy sloppy stuff is good to go...
How very very stupid of all of us for trying to fix these things...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Dude, Kevin said it is fine that way, just leave it be...

Max, Alex, Stefan, Brad, Matt, Dan, myself and every other restorer that fixes them is wasting our time apparently... sorry for the bother, that floppy sloppy stuff is good to go...
How very very stupid of all of us for trying to fix these things...

Originally Posted by Maximilian

I've had a few of those. Tubes won't really work. Drill out the hole and then use a sleeve (or not) or leave as is.

I get your sarcasm Glen, but then Max posts this...? (Maybe I just didn't get his sarcasm.)

Anyway, I still figure there's no point in skipping a 5 second fix after spending hours (and hours) cleaning and scaling a razor. Anything worth doing is worth doing well, and besides, not doing a sleeve or some type of fix is going to make the razor much more difficult when you hone, strop or shave with it.

Not really being sarcastic, we take the time to not only post threads of how we do things, and explain why we do it, but to actually take pics, and do videos in some cases.... So someone might take the time to say "Yeah, why would you fix it" ????

Yeah I am not really being sarcastic in the least...

Now you might also take the time to read what Max is saying too, he is talking about fixing irregular holes that won't fit the tube with out drilling (which not everyone has a drill press) and talking about fixing crooked holes that would add stress if you sleeve it....

Honest we can't diagnose everything over the Internet even though we try..We cant see if the hole is crooked from here...We don't know if it is going to stress the scales through the screen...But we still try and give all of you our best guess anyway and take the time to address every issue we can think of...

You need to understand why we take the time out to explain all this, it is because we actually enjoy the hobby that much, and would love for everyone else too also...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Not really being sarcastic, we take the time to not only post threads of how we do things, and explain why we do it, but to actually take pics, and do videos in some cases.... So someone might take the time to say "Yeah, why would you fix it" ????

Yeah I am not really being sarcastic in the least...

Now you might also take the time to read what Max is saying too, he is talking about fixing irregular holes that won't fit the tube with out drilling (which not everyone has a drill press) and talking about fixing crooked holes that would add stress if you sleeve it....

You need to understand why we take the time out to explain all this, it is because we actually enjoy the hobby that much, and would love for everyone else too also...

regardless of how you choose to embellish, the contemporary method of choice was to just leave it.

Only fixing something for myself I have my own sense of perfection in the look I'm going for which is way different than what you and max and all do. Nevertheless I do appreciate all the sharing

I have never used a 1/16 rod maybe it's worse than I imagine-no wait I have an old original one right here that slips on the pin yet operates most excellently in its thin ivory scales, just as it always has I'm sure.

Originally Posted by BingoBango

I get your sarcasm Glen, but then Max posts this...? (Maybe I just didn't get his sarcasm.)

Where's the sarcasm in my answer to you?

Here I am just answering and trying to give you my advise, same as Glen. I look at the picture and read your question and see a crooked pivot hole with some remaining steel. Plain and simple. I've been through many of those exact same ones.
Trying to stick a tubing (aka sleeve) will not work with the remaining steel in the pivot hole unless you completely drill or tap out that hole making it easy to add a tubing (aka sleeve).
I don't or never used epoxy to fill that hole either. This is all just my advise so take it for what it's worth.

I am always up for learning a new way. Another arrow, dont ya know. I can diagnose that we all enjoy this stuff. At the time it sure seemed like my op was real question I wanted to know. the handle is made all sorts of do-dads; washers, bushings, wedges, spreaders, yet there was no piece through the tang.

"I think it makes it a little bit better" is good enough reason.

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In the interests of sharing; there is a simple technique used to conserve sword fittings that is perfect for angled holes.

It's not the safest practice to drill into an existing hole without going up several sizes. And you cant do it with handtools.

Sekigane : soft metal forged to fit. The you drill a straight hole.