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    I really hate to sound ignorant here, but is the evacuation process supposed to allow the 'sealer' to penetrate the wood better?

    The thread has seemed to go off of the major point/which I had presumed was to be about the evacuation system. Not Hydrogen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickRussell View Post
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    I also did a lot of "experiments" as a kid. My eyebrows were never very old.
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    I would expect the principle would be the same as that applied when vacuum impregnating insulating varnish into electric motor windings. Putting the stator immersed in liquid varnish under vacuum removes air voids that would otherwise stay in place due to the surface tension of the varnish. When the vacuum is released any remaining voids that now have the air removed are quickly filled with varnish. It's expensive to get set up but gives you a higher quality end product. If you substituted wood or some other porous material then the process would drive the varnish/resin etc into the pores and produce a more durable handle/scale material.

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    Foodsaver vacuum canisters work good for sucking marinade into meat.
    I think I might sacrifice one to try sucking stabilizer into wood.

    Everything that's needed is already there: a container that will hold vacuum with the necessary fittings to hook it up to a vacuum pump.

    Granted, it's not as fun as building something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickRussell View Post
    If you substituted wood or some other porous material then the process would drive the varnish/resin etc into the pores and produce a more durable handle/scale material.
    That is spot on correct sir. In other words it keeps wood from splitting, checking and and crazing and it allows for a much smoother, cleaner finish.

    I looked at some of the drink bottles but I don't like the small opening (just a personal glitch) They may work just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    Foodsaver vacuum canisters work good for sucking marinade into meat.
    I think I might sacrifice one to try sucking stabilizer into wood.

    Everything that's needed is already there: a container that will hold vacuum with the necessary fittings to hook it up to a vacuum pump.

    Granted, it's not as fun as building something...
    Good Point Eric!

    A plastic vacuum container/bag would hopefully hold the vacuum for a very long period of time! I do wonder about any solvent type materials that might react with the Food Grade Plastics! I'm also still presuming that this process is to allow a sealer to penetrate deep into the pores of the wood!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cudarunner View Post
    I do wonder about any solvent type materials that might react with the Food Grade Plastics!
    Good point Roy!
    It just occurred to me that I don't even need to sacrifice a canister.
    I can put the scales and stabilizer in a glass jar, leave the cap off, and then put that in a large vacuum container. It should accomplish the same thing, while protecting the plastic container.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    Good point Roy!
    It just occurred to me that I don't even need to sacrifice a canister.
    I can put the scales and stabilizer in a glass jar, leave the cap off, and then put that in a large vacuum container. It should accomplish the same thing, while protecting the plastic container.
    Yea, that might just work. What is the vacuum rate of your machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    Good point Roy!
    It just occurred to me that I don't even need to sacrifice a canister.
    I can put the scales and stabilizer in a glass jar, leave the cap off, and then put that in a large vacuum container. It should accomplish the same thing, while protecting the plastic container.
    Eric

    I do believe that most household vacuum sealers offer an attachment (sometimes purchased separately) that goes over a common 'canning' lid when placed on the opening of a 'Glass' jar and then evacuates the air and the jar stays 'sealed when the attachment is removed'!!

    Just a thought!
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