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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikazeproject View Post
    I forgot earlier, but meant to ask... what's the word on using a Dremel on low speed with the buffing wheel for final polishing?
    Dremels can be very beneficial -BUT- in inexperienced hands they tend to eat razors...

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    Your first razor should be a heavy bladed wedgie Ole Sheffield as they are just beefier and less prone to destruction

    If you insist on fast spinning things around the razor learn to bury the edge, either use a soft piece of pine and keep the edge on it or use a magnetic jig..

    Bookmark this page

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...wers-here.html

    It has all this that I type on all these kinds of threads right there it is a great reference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogrider View Post
    Listen to Glen, I put my Dremel away after I ruined a vintage Thistle razor; not only that but the piece of steel that broke off from the blade just missed my face by a couple of inches. HOG
    Oh God no! Not a Thistle! You lost a fine shaver there my friend, 'tis a shame indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Dremels can be very beneficial -BUT- in inexperienced hands the tend to eat razors...

    Hints:

    Your first razor should be a heavy bladed wedgie Ole Sheffield as they are just beefier and less prone to destruction

    If you insist on fast spinning things around the razor learn to bury the edge, either use a soft piece of pine and keep the edge on it or use a magnetic jig..

    Bookmark this page

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...wers-here.html

    It has all this that I type on all these kinds of threads right there it is a great reference
    Awesome. Yeah, to be honest, using a power tool on paper thin, razor sharp steel scares the bejeezus out of me. haha After I posted that last comment I broke out that Hans and some 220 grit and started going to town. It's actually not as time consuming as I thought it would be. Thanks for the help.
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    if you go back far enough

    here is an Otto I did for myself by hand

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...h-restore.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    if you go back far enough

    here is an Otto I did for myself by hand

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...h-restore.html
    Yeah... that thing's awesome. I just got the inlays off mine. I have no idea what I'm gonna do for scales, actually. I think I'm gonna try to make some out of dyed polyester resin... we'll see how that goes. haha

    What kinda hone do you use to set a bevel, by the way? I'm kinda looking for something on the cheap, because I've spent...uh... a lot of money on razors/hones/etc. this month. haha I found a 1000 for about twenty bucks, so I was thinking of that maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nun2sharp View Post
    Oh God no! Not a Thistle! You lost a fine shaver there my friend, 'tis a shame indeed!
    Yeap, and I keep the damage razor in a drawer in my tool box to remind me not to trust Dremels. I thing I am going to donate it to the Salvation Army. HOG

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    The lowest priced 1k stone that I have used and I know works is the King which is available in many places like Rockler and Woodcraft even many Co_Op and Ace carry them...

    The Naniwa SS 1k is hardly any more money, but most of us have to order them so it kinda comes down to the few bucks extra for shipping

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    IMHO Dremels aren't the 'issue' - lack of patience is... along with rare 'freak' incident.

    Impatience, lack of thinking the process through, or blue-moon mishaps can be just as damaging with hand sanding or a grinder as they can with a Dremel. As gssixgun pointed out, practice with either a junk or forgiving blade (e.g. wedge) is key.

    I live in a townhouse and therefore have no 'permanent' workspace - e.g. no room for a bench grinder fitted with muslin or sisal wheels. My only choice is either hand sanding or a dremel - all of which is done out doors at a patio table on my deck March thru October. And after a day spent working on the computer, my hands/wrists can't tolerate hours of hand sanding so Dremel it is...

    My first restore - which won the SRP First Restore Contest in Jan 10 (post #47) was done with a Dremel using homemade sanding drums per the threads posted by Toxik. I've since moved on to using greaseless compounds with 1" muslin wheels on the Dremel (for example my lastest two - a Jos. Smith and a Boker).

    I've restored at least a dozen blades (I know, not a lot compared to the pros but a pretty fair number for a 'free-time' hobby done only when weather permits) and have yet to have any 'dremel' damage occur for three simple reasons: I take my time... and I pay attention... and I make sure I don't give the dremel wheel a chance to grab a blade edge or 'over work' a surface.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is don't fear or discount the Dremel. As long as you understand it, respect it, and are attentive and patient with it, it can and will give you amazing results... and can be a fantastic alternative if hand sanding or full-size buffing wheels aren't an option.

    Best of luck with your restoration projects. Have a blast!
    Last edited by Malacoda; 10-22-2011 at 04:43 AM.
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    IMHO Dremels aren't the 'issue' - lack of patience is.

    Impatience and lack of thinking the process through can be just as damaging with hand sanding or a grinder as they can with a Dremel. As gssixgun pointed out, practice with either a junk or forgiving blade (e.g. wedge) is key.

    I live in a townhouse and therefore have no 'permanent' workspace - e.g. no room for a bench grinder fitted with muslin or sisal wheels. My only choice is either hand sanding or a dremel - all of which is done out doors at a patio table on my deck March thru October. And after a day spent working on the computer my hands/wrists can't tolerate hours of hand sanding so Dremel it is...

    My first restore - which won the SRP First Restore Contest in Jan 10 (post #47) was done with a Dremel using homemade sanding drums per the threads posted by Toxik. I've since moved on to using greaseless compounds with 1" muslin wheels on the Dremel (my lastest two restores for example - a Jos. Smith and a Boker).

    I've restored at least a dozen blades over the past two years (I know, not a lot compared to the pros but a pretty fair number for a 'free-time' hobby done only when weather permits) and have yet to have any 'dremel' damage occur for three simple reasons: I take my time... I stay focused... and I make sure I don't give the dremel wheel a chance to grab a blade edge or 'over work' a surface.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is don't fear or discount the Dremel. As long as you understand it, respect it, and are attentive and patient with it, it can and will give you amazing results... and can be a fantastic alternative if hand sanding or full-size buffing wheels aren't an option.

    Best of luck with your restoration projects. Have a blast!
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    The lowest priced 1k stone that I have used and I know works is the King which is available in many places like Rockler and Woodcraft even many Co_Op and Ace carry them...

    The Naniwa SS 1k is hardly any more money, but most of us have to order them so it kinda comes down to the few bucks extra for shipping
    Well, I ended up going with the King... found one for 19 bucks on Amazon with free two day shipping, so... couldn't pass that up. Went ahead and got a DMTD6C, too, because I've never really used the 4000 side on my Norton very much, and when I was working with it the other day, it seems like it needs to be lapped for some reason. One of the corners kinda slopes off slightly and it [I]feels[I] really sandy and gritty, like I've heard some people say on here that the very tops of the 4000 can be when you first get them. So, I think I'm gonna lap it and take it through the gauntlet of wet/dry.

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