Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 21
Like Tree2Likes

Thread: Weird question...felt scales?

  1. #11
    Bevelsetter
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    625
    Thanked: 109

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanjewell View Post
    Sooo...how does one impregnate felt with resin?
    I would start with dinner by candle light.

  2. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    608
    Thanked: 124

    Default

    I think 1 inch is way too thick. People have problems "wetting" or getting thin fiberglass sheets thoroughly soaked with epoxy, so I wouldnt bet on the 1 inch working. As others have said, the thin sheet route would be better. You could prolly even pigment the epoxy and get a nice layered effect if you wanted-but thats getting ahead of things. You could test compression by just wetting it with water and see how much it compresses, I would think.

    You would want a long set epoxy. One option is glaze coat, which you can get a lowes, its good stuff and really handy. But there are professional epoxies that might be better suited that are designed to have their set times altered by controlling the ratio of epoxy to hardener. They might be thinner and better absorbed, too, glaze coat itsnt really designed to be used with cloth like that. Marine epoxies are supposed to be good.

    I was thinking of doing something similar at one point. I ended up on a model RC plane forum. Those guys know alot about epoxies and using them with cloth to build structures, since thats how some of them make their planes. I dotn know if it thats specialized subset of model plane building or not, but I didnt have trouble running across it on the internet, if you're inclined to look. There was alot of info there--almost too much, in fact. It would have taken me a few hours reading to catch up and understand what they were talking about, and I really didnt feel like doing that at the time.
    niftyshaving likes this.

  3. #13
    Pithy Yet Degenerate. ryanjewell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    568
    Thanked: 53

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jaswarb View Post
    I would start with dinner by candle light.
    i was waiting for that..

  4. #14
    Pithy Yet Degenerate. ryanjewell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    568
    Thanked: 53

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete_S View Post
    I think 1 inch is way too thick. People have problems "wetting" or getting thin fiberglass sheets thoroughly soaked with epoxy, so I wouldnt bet on the 1 inch working. As others have said, the thin sheet route would be better. You could prolly even pigment the epoxy and get a nice layered effect if you wanted-but thats getting ahead of things. You could test compression by just wetting it with water and see how much it compresses, I would think.

    You would want a long set epoxy. One option is glaze coat, which you can get a lowes, its good stuff and really handy. But there are professional epoxies that might be better suited that are designed to have their set times altered by controlling the ratio of epoxy to hardener. They might be thinner and better absorbed, too, glaze coat itsnt really designed to be used with cloth like that. Marine epoxies are supposed to be good.

    I was thinking of doing something similar at one point. I ended up on a model RC plane forum. Those guys know alot about epoxies and using them with cloth to build structures, since thats how some of them make their planes. I dotn know if it thats specialized subset of model plane building or not, but I didnt have trouble running across it on the internet, if you're inclined to look. There was alot of info there--almost too much, in fact. It would have taken me a few hours reading to catch up and understand what they were talking about, and I really didnt feel like doing that at the time.
    I guess what i was thinking is soak the one inch in resin and really work it in there...then press. Once you soak and press it would slim down do the roughly 3/16 end product i was aiming for and it would be pretty solid. then some shaping and then epoxy coat.

    soaking thinner sheets then pressing together makes a bit more sense...i really have no idea what i'm doing here

  5. #15
    Bevelsetter
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    625
    Thanked: 109

    Default

    Really the issue with this type of material is how successful you are wetting the substrate. The commonly accepted method is to vacuum bag the soaked fabric using a slow set epoxy. One might investigate the common "sweater bags" and place several layers of wet material remove the air and let it cure overnight. Air pressure works in this instance to apply pressure in all directions whereas pressing or crushing would require some type of die. What results should be a "plank" of felt fully soaked which could be cut to size, sanded, and finished into scales. The felt is an intriguing material as it can easily be manufactured from woolen yarn most any color or combinations.

  6. #16
    Senior Member blabbermouth niftyshaving's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Silicon Valley, CA, USA
    Posts
    3,157
    Thanked: 852

    Default

    A couple 'C' clamps and some 2x4" scrap and you have a press.
    The larger the bit you are trying to work with the more clamps.

    You should be able to find a lot of info on the net. The key
    is that the resin is not all that strong but the fabric can be.
    Layers of silk ribbon and cotton/linen this and that can be combined
    in many ways.

    Hmmm. I think I need to make a Tie-dye razor.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to niftyshaving For This Useful Post:

    ryanjewell (05-05-2012)

  8. #17
    Pithy Yet Degenerate. ryanjewell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    568
    Thanked: 53

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by niftyshaving View Post
    A couple 'C' clamps and some 2x4" scrap and you have a press.
    The larger the bit you are trying to work with the more clamps.

    You should be able to find a lot of info on the net. The key
    is that the resin is not all that strong but the fabric can be.
    Layers of silk ribbon and cotton/linen this and that can be combined
    in many ways.

    Hmmm. I think I need to make a Tie-dye razor.
    Sounds perfect for the fabled chronik blade

  9. #18
    Senior Member blabbermouth Theseus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    2,786
    Thanked: 421

    Default

    Another bit of advice; use wax paper. Nothing like checking to see how your micarta has set up only to realize that it is permanently bonded to your press.
    niftyshaving likes this.

  10. #19
    < Banned User >
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Lakewood, WA
    Posts
    533
    Thanked: 56

    Default

    If you clamp it isn't it going to bond with the clamp?

  11. #20
    Pithy Yet Degenerate. ryanjewell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    568
    Thanked: 53

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven View Post
    If you clamp it isn't it going to bond with the clamp?
    That is why Theseus wisely recommended wax paper

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •