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    An excellent (scientific) article on cell rot, what causes it, how to prevent it and what happens when it begins. Some of the responses were spot on, but I would have thought there was a way to neutralize the reaction once it started


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeX View Post
    An excellent (scientific) article on cell rot, what causes it, how to prevent it and what happens when it begins. Some of the responses were spot on, but I would have thought there was a way to neutralize the reaction once it started


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    Excellent article! Light (esp. ultraviolet light), heat, high humidity are problematic for celluloid. Ventilation is important. This article will make me reconsider my air tight tote boxes for storing my SRs. My totes are good for blocking light and the gel packs are good for reducing humidity...but not so good for ventilation. Hmmmm...need to rethink this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeX View Post
    That says it all. Great article. Reminds me of a tattoo shop in Boston, MA that burned down in the early 20th century. In those days tattooers used celluloid for stencils and the large quantity of stencils in the shop suffered spontaneous combustion and the whole building went up in flames.
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    In the article in the section on temperature it says that degraded cellulose should never be stored in temperatures above 30 degrees C. And it seems that 30 degrees is pretty normal during the summer these days!!

    This raises an interesting question...has anyone here ever experienced spontaneous combustion with a razor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeX View Post
    Great article!!!

    I find it kinda funny that all the Greenies are so concerned about the affects that plastics have in landfills. However, as stated in this article, degradation of these types of plastics is inevitable. It's not "If", but "when." Also, while the Greenies want plastics to go away, we want to preserve it.
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    Thank You JimmyHAD for the pictures. I read the article but just couldn't wrap my mind around what it looks like. Pictures speak a thousand words and these are very descriptive!!

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    The way I noticed on two different occasions was by a light line of spotty rust on the blade. This led me to inspect the inside of the scales. I could see 'stuff' puddling up on the inside. Here are pix I posted in another thread at the time of the first victim.



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    Note the freckled appearance/pattern of rust on the end of the blade in the second pic. That is typical of cell rot IME. That 'stuff' on the scales in the bottom pic is wet even though the razor was stored dry in a closed drawer.
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    This is an "Adoration" that came to me with some other beaters. You can see the color change in the scales and the corresponding rust on the blade.
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    The other side looks ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesandEights View Post
    Great article!!!

    I find it kinda funny that all the Greenies are so concerned about the affects that plastics have in landfills. However, as stated in this article, degradation of these types of plastics is inevitable. It's not "If", but "when." Also, while the Greenies want plastics to go away, we want to preserve it.
    As I had told you it's not IF but WHEN the celluloid decides to head south that it will start gassing and ruin your razors.

    Jimmie posted this pic about 3 years ago, it shows what Will Happen IF the blade is left in gassing scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudarunner View Post
    As I had told you it's not IF but WHEN the celluloid decides to head south that it will start gassing and ruin your razors.

    Jimmie posted this pic about 3 years ago, it shows what Will Happen IF the blade is left in gassing scales.
    That one was bad, but this is my latest poster child (stolen off of google)

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