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Ok I got my new HB buffer some formax compounds and some 4" sisal wheels from zorotools...as I attempted to spin some 80 grit on the wheels this is what I got...please tell me this is not normal and suggestions to fix???!!!
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So I tried to apply the greasless to a 4" spiral sewn and it only wants to load part of the wheel...something isnt right...please help!!
Switch to cotton wheels. I found sisal wheels were really bad at holding onto greaselss compound.
Yeah getting them loaded the first time can be frustrating :(
Try Light touch, let it dry, light touch, Repeat
Try bumping it until the wheel stops, Repeat
Try starting the load and turning off the power and letting it slow down under pressure
Finally throw the wheel very hard against the wall, cuss, and try a different brand and type of wheel :)
Concur on the throwing it against the wall and cussing part G lol. Honestly since I am a inexperienced novice at this I would probably take a wild guess on the brand being a little on the cheap side.
Yeah I guess you could go that route, but mine are from Home Depot :) I doubt they are "High Quality" LOL
The first time is just frustrating,, :rofl2: sorta like other first times in lfe
Are not some wheels "directional" ??
Perhaps reversing the rotation? (never used them, just seem to recall reading about it someplace)
Yes, some are sewn in a spiral pattern and don't like going the wrong way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie
Your wheel looks like it having a bad hair day!
Ill try turning them around and see what that does...cant hurt. Ah yes Six the first time lol....some first times are better off forgetting lol :D
what is the speed of the buffer?
I just ran into a similar problem.
I had no problem loading compound the 1st couple of times. Then I left my greaseless compound out ( w/end of it exposed to air) overnight. I tried to load compound on my wheel the next day and my wheel looked similar to yours. I realized the end of my tube of compound seemed extremely hard, so I shaved the hard shell off end of it and I was back in business.
Hope that helps.
JC
Hey There
As already pointed out it looks like you were going the wrong way. I would take some scissors, trim that bad hair day, turn it around and try again.
When I apply the compound *YOU CAN HURT YOURSELF IF YOU DON'T PAY CLOSE ATTENTION* I turn the wheel on and off to get a loading speed whilst I apply.
This gives me a slower wheel speed to apply the compound to, instead of it just flinging it right on off, it also allows me to apply more pressure to the stick.
Does anybody else do this?
On the big machine I do the same, it only have one speed, high!Quote:
Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven
The others I set on a lower speed when loading.
To those who are new to this, don't use to much paste, it will just smear around and be less effective,
and don't use to high speed or pressure, the paste can get burned to your workpiece.
I never used any of the machines for polishing razors, it gets hot and I'm afraid of ruining the hardening.
He is loading Fomax, "Greaseless" compounds
He has to load a solid thick base coat.. there is a difference in loading Grease based Polishing compounds and Glue/Resin based Greaseless compounds
I picked up a "Router Speed Control" for like $20 at Harbor Freight. You just plug your buffer into it and it has a dial control to adjust motor speed. So far it's working like a champ. I just turn down the speed to load compound and depending on what size wheel I'm using, I can adjust to keep the speed/rpm's down. Anybody else try one of these?Quote:
Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven
JC
That device should, in time, cook your grinder motor. But keep us in the loop. If it doesn't happen in six months, I definitely want to know! :)
It seems that sandpaper is easier to work with.....:shrug:
OK Jc50, it's been a while. How's your buffer's motor holding out? I have a few grinder/buffers that I'd like to try that thing on.
I have read about these speed controllers being used a few times in the forum. I checked with this little old lady I know that is a master electrician. I mean she has been wiring since Tesla was around. She gave me a firm NO. Now I know you can do it and it will make your motor slow down but the longevity of it will be decreased greatly. She went on to explain how the windings are made to accept and use a certain amount of electrical current and that the current not used would heat the motor looking for a place to go. So I would say you have to weigh the value of the motor against the affect you want. Like any other tool, if abusing it gets the job done and your willing to make the sacrifice, go for it. If you want something nice you never have to worry about then look for a motor that is wound for variable speeds. The other alternative is step pulleys.
Sort of what I was thinking but had no hard data. Thanks - that makes the case for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by 10Pups
AirColorado,
I haven't used it in a while, but I did use it on 2 or 3 blades for restore. It worked well, but I believe it will damage the motor. I would not recommend it for heavy usage. After 45min to an hr of usage, I had to give the buffer a break. It def seemed to be overheating.
Regards,
JC
I have yet to destroy a blade with sandpaper, but a buffer is a whole other frustrating story!Quote:
Originally Posted by Havachat45
My sisal wheel will do that from time to time. I just trim off the stuff and it is good for quite awhile. I really like the aggressiveness of the sisal as a first step in polishing.
Rob
I have been using 3 inch wheels with my 2, Taiwan, 3600 rpm buffers for a few years without a problem, hold the razor bare handed and cool the razor in water as soon as you feel heat.
My 1800 rpm Baldor also uses 3 inch wheels and I still have to cool in water. They both heat up and they both work… well.
Buy 3 inch wheels and don’t worry about it. Heat is a by-product of buffing.
Thanks JC. I tend to gt distracted between workstations in my shop so I leave things running. Sounds like I should avoid it after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by jc50
