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Thread: NOS razor honing problem
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04-22-2008, 12:58 AM #11
I don't have any solutions but it just sounds to me like something bad was done to that razor in the past to cause an issue. maybe someone corrected the problem partially but then created the problem with that section. Unless you use a very narrow hone to selectively tackle the problem area the only other thing I can think of is to hone back the entire blade to get to some better metal.
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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04-22-2008, 02:14 AM #12
I thought about that, but it's from Classicshaving, so they should exchange it for it's owner, and I'll be happy to hone the replacement.
If it was mine, or was an E-bay purchase, I might consider honing it down a little, but I really think the defect is deep, or it would cover a much smaller area.
Filarmonica used very good quality steel for their blades, I am more prone to think it either got over heated while getting it's final grind, or something else went wrong in the heat treatment process.
In either case if I'm correct, it will not get better even if I were to hone it down to a 5/8
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04-22-2008, 03:43 AM #13
I had one like that a while back it came up to speed when I ran it over my sequence of bench ones. But like you said, it just might be defective steel.
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04-22-2008, 04:44 AM #14
I've run it through my entire arsenal of hones, tricks etc...
With and without slurry, pasted strops, sandpapers.
Under magnification, I can watch as that spot scratches faster and deeper than regular razor steel, it also polishes faster. It's almost like I'm trying to hone aluminum (yes I have tried)
I've seen Zeepks take and hold an edge better...
If I had to guess, I would assume they tried to spot temper the blade, and missed part of it, or they only dipped part of it?
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04-22-2008, 04:39 PM #15
Run her through some cork to make sure the edge is clean then try circular honing method mixed with x-pattern on higher grit i.e. colticule - to first establish the bevel. Then see how she takes to normal routine x-pattern after that. Go real slow and keep checking edge regularly.
It's gonna take you longer to achieve the desired edge but the coticule will be less harsh on the blade and should produce the desired results.
FYI I'd a dovo I honed for someone that produced similar results and that's how I got round it.
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04-22-2008, 08:52 PM #16
I don't have a coticule, but I tried several variations of that...
No matter ho I tried it the heel won't take an edge.
It actually folded when I tried the TPT...
I've never seen steel do this.
The good news is I contacted Classic this morning, and they couldn't have been better.
They didn't hesitate, As soon as I explained the situation they got my address, and they are sending out a replacement. Hopefully I will have the replacement honed and to the member in a week or so.
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04-22-2008, 08:58 PM #17
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04-22-2008, 09:03 PM #18
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04-22-2008, 09:16 PM #19
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04-22-2008, 09:44 PM #20
We all want our razors to be serviceable, and this is a nice one. perfectly centered, well balanced... I was reasonably certain that it was flawed, but thought maybe somebody could offer a magic cure all, that one step that makes you step back and go wow...
As it is, Even if A solution could be found, How would the member maintain the edge?
I wouldn't be confident sending it out and expecting anybody to maintain or shave with it...