Thread: Read this if you own a SHAPTON!

Originally Posted by Bruno

If all else fails, you can always chamfer the edges to the extreme so that you end up with a 1" wide honing surface on a 3" wide glass plate.

Or simply wear away most of the ceramic material down to the glass layer.

Ok, I think I'll give up now. Talked to Howard who said that Harrelson told him there are no plans for any narrower Shapton GS stones. He also thinks it would be impossible to remove the ceramic or break the glass and leave the ceramic intact. Anyway, without something to experiment on, I don't think I'll pursue it further. I'm looking pretty hard at the DMT 6" x 2" 1200 grit plates...

Thanks!

I say buy one of those 1K Besters and rip it in half, Alex. You had a good idea going there. I like how narrow hones whip problem blades into submission.

Chris L

The Shapton ceramic stones are mounted to the glass substrate because the ceramic is less than 1cm in thickness. Even so, I don't think I'll wear out even my 1K in my lifetime.

Chris L

Originally Posted by Philadelph

Ok, I think I'll give up now. Talked to Howard who said that Harrelson told him there are no plans for any narrower Shapton GS stones. He also thinks it would be impossible to remove the ceramic or break the glass and leave the ceramic intact. Anyway, without something to experiment on, I don't think I'll pursue it further. I'm looking pretty hard at the DMT 6" x 2" 1200 grit plates...

Thanks!

Are you sure it is tempered glass and not plate? If it is tempered it will have little dimples along one edge where the glass is hung by clamps while it goes through the tempering process. My guess is it is plate, not tempered. I may be wrong. If it is plate a water saw such as tile setters use will cut the stone and probably the glass right along with it.

Originally Posted by JimmyH-AD

Are you sure it is tempered glass and not plate? If it is tempered it will have little dimples along one edge where the glass is hung by clamps while it goes through the tempering process. My guess is it is plate, not tempered. I may be wrong. If it is plate a water saw such as tile setters use will cut the stone and probably the glass right along with it.

At a boy, Jimmy. Keep our hope alive my friend!

Alex, don't give up the dream!

Chris L

If it really is a big concern to have such a narrow hone (lord knows I'd get rid of such razors, not enough time/patience for honing such things to keep them as a user), why not use an inexpensive hone? If it's about just the final polish work and you just HAVE TO HAVE a Shapton for that purpose, then why not simply put a bevel along one side of a regular hone. You'll still have most of the width for normal razors and could have a 1/2" or 3/4" wide bevel on the hone to deal with those razors than need a narrow honing surface... Nothing cut, nor broken, same hone does both jobs... I forget who, but someone used to do that with a Norton hone. Also, someone pefected the art of slightly tilting a DMT to work near the edge on such razors, imitating a narrow stone... I've tried it and it works fine.

Regards

Kaptain "There's more than one way to skin a cat" Zero

I think that you could glue a new piece of reinforcement “tile, marble” to the face of the hone then cut off the original tempered glass by cutting through the shapton. This would leave you with about an 1/8 inch of abrasive bonded to a new substrate. You would end up with about half as much abrasive, but then again you would also end up with two stones once you cut it in half.

Cut it on the horizontal plane not the vertical.

Charlie

FWIW, I bought my 15K Shapton Pro with 15mm thickness from a very experienced honemeister. He wanted to go with the 16K glasstone @ 5mm honing thinckness. He has since told me that although he likes the 16k glass it doesn't cut any faster then the 15k pro and he feels they are about equal in their performance. So...... get a pro in whatever grit size you desire and cut it without the hassle of dealing with the glass. More bang for the buck with the 15mm.

Ok, I don't get it.... if you have a 15mm thick hone, why would you not just use the 15mm side for those difficult razors and leave the poor thing alone? If I didn't know better, I'd think you guys were all obsessed with cutting expensive hones up into itsy bitsy little pieces!

Regards

Kaptain "Remember... if you cut it too short, you'll have to cut it again.. only to find it's still too short" Zero